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You're missing latency which is arguably more important.

shadowgovt 7y ago
Latency is something Google already has a large, distributed network with low-ping datacenters to major population centers to address.
- wolfd 7y ago
  It's hard to beat local compute for latency.
  - shadowgovt 7y ago
    Absolutely. One could even make a decent claim that (barring some truly ancient hardware between input, CPU, and monitor / audio circuits) it's impossible. It's surprising how much latency a human will tolerate without notice, however.
    - treis 7y ago
      >One could even make a decent claim that (barring some truly ancient hardware between input, CPU, and monitor / audio circuits) it's impossible. I think that's only if we ignore monitor refresh rates. Most of us are maxed at 60 FPS which with a lot of hand waving is equivalent to ~17 ms latency. It's relatively easy to get a network with latency better than that. If you can achieve the rendering + data round trip in under 17 ms you're going to be functionally equivalent to a local computer.
- falcolas 7y ago
  Funny, I have around 90ms latency to Google (from my home fiber). So, no, their network doesn't really address it in reality.
  - treis 7y ago
    Just because you have bad latency doesn't mean everyone else does.
    - falcolas 7y ago
      Given that I'm running fiber that connects to the local university backbone, I'm running the fastest possible link in my area (excepting those in the university). So, I'd say that I'm running the best case scenario available within my area.
      - treis 7y ago
        That's not accurate. A university is a relatively small population and not something that Google will necessarily optimize for. And there's no guarantee that the university isn't doing something wrong that is artificially increasing latency. My anecdata counterpoint is that I pay for the cheapest/slowest broadband available in a midsized city and my ping to google.com is 14ms.
  - orbifold 7y ago
    My ping to google.com is 9 ms at home and around 5 ms at work.

Latency is something Google already has a large, distributed network with low-ping datacenters to major population centers to address.

wolfd 7y ago
It's hard to beat local compute for latency.
- shadowgovt 7y ago
  Absolutely. One could even make a decent claim that (barring some truly ancient hardware between input, CPU, and monitor / audio circuits) it's impossible. It's surprising how much latency a human will tolerate without notice, however.
  - treis 7y ago
    >One could even make a decent claim that (barring some truly ancient hardware between input, CPU, and monitor / audio circuits) it's impossible. I think that's only if we ignore monitor refresh rates. Most of us are maxed at 60 FPS which with a lot of hand waving is equivalent to ~17 ms latency. It's relatively easy to get a network with latency better than that. If you can achieve the rendering + data round trip in under 17 ms you're going to be functionally equivalent to a local computer.
falcolas 7y ago
Funny, I have around 90ms latency to Google (from my home fiber). So, no, their network doesn't really address it in reality.
- treis 7y ago
  Just because you have bad latency doesn't mean everyone else does.
  - falcolas 7y ago
    Given that I'm running fiber that connects to the local university backbone, I'm running the fastest possible link in my area (excepting those in the university). So, I'd say that I'm running the best case scenario available within my area.
    - treis 7y ago
      That's not accurate. A university is a relatively small population and not something that Google will necessarily optimize for. And there's no guarantee that the university isn't doing something wrong that is artificially increasing latency. My anecdata counterpoint is that I pay for the cheapest/slowest broadband available in a midsized city and my ping to google.com is 14ms.
- orbifold 7y ago
  My ping to google.com is 9 ms at home and around 5 ms at work.