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$175,000 at Oracle for an entry-level engineer? I mean... just... wow. You could retire at 35 and not have to work for the rest of your life. How hard is it t

$175,000 at Oracle for an entry-level engineer? I mean... just... wow. You could retire at 35 and not have to work for the rest of your life. How hard is it to get these jobs?

amznthrowaway5 7y ago
Not that hard depending on your natural cognitive ability. Just grind leetcode questions. For higher level interviews, also study up on systems design questions.
- chillacy 7y ago
  I think that's underselling things. These companies have very low admit rates, and leetcode is pretty tedious. That said though, divide the compensation difference by 200 hours of studying and it probably works out to a worthy investment.
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  - amznthrowaway5 7y ago
    One reason they have very low admit rates because most candidates are absolutely awful and cannot code at all, even if they have years of software development experience! Grinding leetcode is definitely worth it.
- perl4ever 7y ago
  If they get far more applicants than they hire, it isn't possible for the solution to be something anyone can do.
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slavapestov 7y ago
> You could retire at 35 and not have to work for the rest of your life. Why does everyone on this site want to “retire by 35”? I don’t know anyone who retired (or plans to retire) at 35. Besides, hand-waving about “basic financial literacy” aside, doing so would require living like a broke college student from age 22 to 35, and then moving to an RV in Nebraska to live out the rest of your natural life in “retirement”. What the fuck is the point?
- plorkyeran 7y ago
  I don't want to retire at 35, but I would like to be able to if I burn out, can't find a job, or whatever. Not having to work ever again (but choosing to continue to work) eliminates a lot of sources of stress for me.
- marvin 7y ago
  It's not about wanting to, it's about having the option. Then you can do whatever you want. There's no downsides, and it gives you much more leverage in negotiations even if you continue working exactly as before.
nixgeek 7y ago
Bachelors in CS from Stanford. Pass the interview. Decent GPA. Internship somewhere interesting certainly wouldn’t hurt. That’s not an unusual offer for smart software engineers coming in from top colleges, where you’re being hired to work at Redwood Shores or Seattle. Having a Masters or PhD will push it up a bit higher again.
- asdf21 7y ago
  What about a MBA? I was on the business side before learning to code..
techie128 7y ago
Before you go gaga over this figure, here's a reality check. Oracle only paid such high wages in their OCI division which had a blank check. After their brutal fight with AMZN over the cloud wars and the subsequent reality check, they've had a ton of layoffs (surprise, surprise). So I would take this comp with a pinch of salt.

$175,000 at Oracle for an entry-level engineer? I mean... just... wow. You could retire at 35 and not have to work for the rest of your life. How hard is it to get these jobs?

amznthrowaway5 7y ago

Not that hard depending on your natural cognitive ability. Just grind leetcode questions. For higher level interviews, also study up on systems design questions.

chillacy 7y ago
I think that's underselling things. These companies have very low admit rates, and leetcode is pretty tedious. That said though, divide the compensation difference by 200 hours of studying and it probably works out to a worthy investment.
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- amznthrowaway5 7y ago
  One reason they have very low admit rates because most candidates are absolutely awful and cannot code at all, even if they have years of software development experience! Grinding leetcode is definitely worth it.
perl4ever 7y ago
If they get far more applicants than they hire, it isn't possible for the solution to be something anyone can do.
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slavapestov 7y ago

> You could retire at 35 and not have to work for the rest of your life. Why does everyone on this site want to “retire by 35”? I don’t know anyone who retired (or plans to retire) at 35. Besides, hand-waving about “basic financial literacy” aside, doing so would require living like a broke college student from age 22 to 35, and then moving to an RV in Nebraska to live out the rest of your natural life in “retirement”. What the fuck is the point?

plorkyeran 7y ago
I don't want to retire at 35, but I would like to be able to if I burn out, can't find a job, or whatever. Not having to work ever again (but choosing to continue to work) eliminates a lot of sources of stress for me.
marvin 7y ago
It's not about wanting to, it's about having the option. Then you can do whatever you want. There's no downsides, and it gives you much more leverage in negotiations even if you continue working exactly as before.

nixgeek 7y ago

Bachelors in CS from Stanford. Pass the interview. Decent GPA. Internship somewhere interesting certainly wouldn’t hurt. That’s not an unusual offer for smart software engineers coming in from top colleges, where you’re being hired to work at Redwood Shores or Seattle. Having a Masters or PhD will push it up a bit higher again.

asdf21 7y ago
What about a MBA? I was on the business side before learning to code..

techie128 7y ago

Before you go gaga over this figure, here's a reality check. Oracle only paid such high wages in their OCI division which had a blank check. After their brutal fight with AMZN over the cloud wars and the subsequent reality check, they've had a ton of layoffs (surprise, surprise). So I would take this comp with a pinch of salt.