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>A slogan of Rao’s may point the way: Be slightly evil. Or: geeks need to learn and use some of the sociopaths’ tricks. Then geeks can capture more of the value

>A slogan of Rao’s may point the way: Be slightly evil. Or: geeks need to learn and use some of the sociopaths’ tricks. Then geeks can capture more of the value they create (and get better at ejecting true sociopaths). That sounds a lot like what's happening to open source. Mops are happy that they get things for free, creators are living on starvation wages, sociopaths at the cloud companies are making hundreds of billions. >At best you can charge them admission or a subscription fee, but they’ll inevitably argue that this is wrong because capitalism is evil, and also because they forgot their wallet. Yes, open source mops to a t.

traverseda 7y ago
Although notice here that it's the cloud companies making hundreds of billions off of free labour, not the "mops". If your take away from that is "we need to charge people money for open source" instead of "use less business friendly licenses like the AGPL" you should really ask yourself why you're doing open source in the first place. We don't really need more SaaS freemium open source stuff.
- buzzkillington 7y ago
  Yes? That's the point of the article. The mops nickle and dime you to death "Why aren't you using the MIT license? The GPL isn't really an open source license. How can it be about freedom when it forces me to do things?". The psychopaths just extract all the value. At any rate all the current open source licenses are meant for the 80s or 90s. Freedom zero is only for people, not corporations. The only sane license I've seen for the modern world was this rework of the MIT license: Copyright <YEAR> <COPYRIGHT HOLDER> Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any natural person obtaining a copy of this software and associated documentation files (the "Software"), to deal in the Software to other natural persons without restriction, including without limitation the rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish, distribute, sublicense, and/or sell copies of the Software, and to permit natural persons to whom the Software is furnished to do so, subject to the following conditions: The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be included in all copies or substantial portions of the Software. THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS IS", WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY, FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND NONINFRINGEMENT. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE AUTHORS OR COPYRIGHT HOLDERS BE LIABLE FOR ANY CLAIM, DAMAGES OR OTHER LIABILITY, WHETHER IN AN ACTION OF CONTRACT, TORT OR OTHERWISE, ARISING FROM, OUT OF OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE SOFTWARE OR THE USE OR OTHER DEALINGS IN THE SOFTWARE.

traverseda 7y ago

Although notice here that it's the cloud companies making hundreds of billions off of free labour, not the "mops". If your take away from that is "we need to charge people money for open source" instead of "use less business friendly licenses like the AGPL" you should really ask yourself why you're doing open source in the first place. We don't really need more SaaS freemium open source stuff.

buzzkillington 7y ago
Yes? That's the point of the article. The mops nickle and dime you to death "Why aren't you using the MIT license? The GPL isn't really an open source license. How can it be about freedom when it forces me to do things?". The psychopaths just extract all the value. At any rate all the current open source licenses are meant for the 80s or 90s. Freedom zero is only for people, not corporations. The only sane license I've seen for the modern world was this rework of the MIT license: Copyright <YEAR> <COPYRIGHT HOLDER> Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any natural person obtaining a copy of this software and associated documentation files (the "Software"), to deal in the Software to other natural persons without restriction, including without limitation the rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish, distribute, sublicense, and/or sell copies of the Software, and to permit natural persons to whom the Software is furnished to do so, subject to the following conditions: The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be included in all copies or substantial portions of the Software. THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS IS", WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY, FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND NONINFRINGEMENT. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE AUTHORS OR COPYRIGHT HOLDERS BE LIABLE FOR ANY CLAIM, DAMAGES OR OTHER LIABILITY, WHETHER IN AN ACTION OF CONTRACT, TORT OR OTHERWISE, ARISING FROM, OUT OF OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE SOFTWARE OR THE USE OR OTHER DEALINGS IN THE SOFTWARE.