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> The piss-poor are too caught up trying to survive to have much of a political agenda. With all due respect I don’t think this is true. Besides, as income lev

> The piss-poor are too caught up trying to survive to have much of a political agenda. With all due respect I don’t think this is true. Besides, as income level goes up, people are more likely to be a blue voter than a red voter[1], a fact people have a hard time believing. Arguably 2016 was the poor, lower middle class (one of the least represented demographics in America) rising up and rejecting globalism. They affected change, was it not the kind that you expected? After all, what class do people think the “deplorables” are? A bunch of rich dentists? 1. https://www.people-press.org/2016/09/13/2016-party-identification-detailed-tables/ https://www.people-press.org/2016/09/13/2016-party-identific...

war1025 7y ago
> as income level goes up, people are more likely to be a blue voter than a red voter That's precisely my point. Income inequality is a Democrat talking point.
- bronco21016 7y ago
  Are you mixing up red vs blue? I think most people tend to assume that as ones income increases they’re less in favor of a tax system that decreases income inequality.
ZeroGravitas 7y ago
What figures are you intending to quote from your link? I was surprised by your comment as I'd seen data showing that Obama Vs Romney had a clear trend of richer people voting Republican (the crossover point was around 70K). I knew educated people had swung towards Clinton and away from Trump, but I didn't think it was enough to change that overall result. Looking at your source, the family income section seems to agree with my assumptions. Am I missing something? Edit: I see there's a small blip in the detailed family income above 150,000 for combined dem/lean dem (though more identify as republican than democrat)
- war1025 7y ago
  I haven't looked into it enough to have any clear data, but I have always assumed that the distribution looks more like a layer cake than anything else. If you are X, then the people in the social groups immediately below and above you are assumed to be Y. Mainly because people compare themselves to the people directly adjacent to them. So if you are different enough to no longer be part of the "in group", then you are likely to be part of the "out group". Don't have any idea if there is truth to that or not.
rascul 7y ago
> as income level goes up, people are more likely to be a blue voter than a red voter Could you elaborate on this? I'm having trouble reaching the same conclusion from the link you provided.

war1025 7y ago

> as income level goes up, people are more likely to be a blue voter than a red voter That's precisely my point. Income inequality is a Democrat talking point.

bronco21016 7y ago
Are you mixing up red vs blue? I think most people tend to assume that as ones income increases they’re less in favor of a tax system that decreases income inequality.

ZeroGravitas 7y ago

What figures are you intending to quote from your link? I was surprised by your comment as I'd seen data showing that Obama Vs Romney had a clear trend of richer people voting Republican (the crossover point was around 70K). I knew educated people had swung towards Clinton and away from Trump, but I didn't think it was enough to change that overall result. Looking at your source, the family income section seems to agree with my assumptions. Am I missing something? Edit: I see there's a small blip in the detailed family income above 150,000 for combined dem/lean dem (though more identify as republican than democrat)

war1025 7y ago
I haven't looked into it enough to have any clear data, but I have always assumed that the distribution looks more like a layer cake than anything else. If you are X, then the people in the social groups immediately below and above you are assumed to be Y. Mainly because people compare themselves to the people directly adjacent to them. So if you are different enough to no longer be part of the "in group", then you are likely to be part of the "out group". Don't have any idea if there is truth to that or not.

rascul 7y ago

> as income level goes up, people are more likely to be a blue voter than a red voter Could you elaborate on this? I'm having trouble reaching the same conclusion from the link you provided.