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That's how a modern Windows Terminal Server/Citrix/whatever infrastructure works, smartcards and all.

by lima 7y ago

mrweasel 7y ago
Cool, I did not know that. Why any organisation would choose to deploy regular desktops if this option exists, and why wouldn’t someone like the NHS not already be using this?
- toyg 7y ago
  Because Citrix is horrible and expensive, and TS is (thougth to be) too weak (and again expensive).
- ocdtrekkie 7y ago
  Virtual desktops are a whole different ball of horror. Sometimes giving everyone a plain old PC is a ton cheaper than figuring out how to troubleshoot the super expensive nightmare server that has to handle the load of replacing everyone's PCs.
- DanBC 7y ago
  > and why wouldn’t someone like the NHS not already be using this? We all say "The NHS", but it's made up of a bunch of different companies. https://www.nhsconfed.org/resources/key-statistics-on-the-nhs https://www.nhsconfed.org/resources/key-statistics-on-the-nh... 135 acute non-specialist trusts (including 84 foundation trusts) 17 acute specialist trusts (including 16 foundation trusts) 54 mental health trusts (including 42 foundation trusts) 35 community providers (11 NHS trusts, 6 foundation trusts, 17 social enterprises and 1 limited company) 10 ambulance trusts (including 5 foundation trusts)11 7,454 GP practices12 853 for-profit and not-for-profit independent sector organisations, providing care to NHS patients from 7,331 locations13
toyg 7y ago
* Nobody uses windows terminal server for anything serious, because of its reputation for security holes (which may or may not be outdated, but y'know, "java is slow" etc etc). * Nobody likes Citrix, even (or particularly) when they use it every day. The amount of compromises and hoops that app developers have to consider to deploy on it, is significant.
- lima 7y ago
  > Nobody uses windows terminal server for anything serious, because of its reputation for security holes (which may or may not be outdated, but y'know, "java is slow" etc etc). Entire companies run on remote desktop. It's the industry standard, at least here in Germany. I'm working with a lot of enterprise customers and I never heard about particular security concerns with RDP. If anything, the protocol has an excellent security track record.

That's how a modern Windows Terminal Server/Citrix/whatever infrastructure works, smartcards and all.

by lima 7y ago

That's how a modern Windows Terminal Server/Citrix/whatever infrastructure works, smartcards and all.

Cool, I did not know that. Why any organisation would choose to deploy regular desktops if this option exists, and why wouldn’t someone like the NHS not already be using this?

toyg 7y ago
Because Citrix is horrible and expensive, and TS is (thougth to be) too weak (and again expensive).
ocdtrekkie 7y ago
Virtual desktops are a whole different ball of horror. Sometimes giving everyone a plain old PC is a ton cheaper than figuring out how to troubleshoot the super expensive nightmare server that has to handle the load of replacing everyone's PCs.
DanBC 7y ago
> and why wouldn’t someone like the NHS not already be using this? We all say "The NHS", but it's made up of a bunch of different companies. https://www.nhsconfed.org/resources/key-statistics-on-the-nhs https://www.nhsconfed.org/resources/key-statistics-on-the-nh... 135 acute non-specialist trusts (including 84 foundation trusts) 17 acute specialist trusts (including 16 foundation trusts) 54 mental health trusts (including 42 foundation trusts) 35 community providers (11 NHS trusts, 6 foundation trusts, 17 social enterprises and 1 limited company) 10 ambulance trusts (including 5 foundation trusts)11 7,454 GP practices12 853 for-profit and not-for-profit independent sector organisations, providing care to NHS patients from 7,331 locations13

toyg 7y ago

* Nobody uses windows terminal server for anything serious, because of its reputation for security holes (which may or may not be outdated, but y'know, "java is slow" etc etc). * Nobody likes Citrix, even (or particularly) when they use it every day. The amount of compromises and hoops that app developers have to consider to deploy on it, is significant.

lima 7y ago
> Nobody uses windows terminal server for anything serious, because of its reputation for security holes (which may or may not be outdated, but y'know, "java is slow" etc etc). Entire companies run on remote desktop. It's the industry standard, at least here in Germany. I'm working with a lot of enterprise customers and I never heard about particular security concerns with RDP. If anything, the protocol has an excellent security track record.