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Not at all. It's in this case, using the term serverless is akin to calling cloud based software (Google Docs, TurboTax, etc) softwareless. It's closer to call

Not at all. It's in this case, using the term serverless is akin to calling cloud based software (Google Docs, TurboTax, etc) softwareless. It's closer to calling a stop sign a "go sign" than descriptors from your example. Calling managed servers "serverless" is distinctively misleading.

scarface74 7y ago
How is it any more misleading than “bugs”, “containers”, “the cloud”,”server farms”, etc. Wouldn’t you be the first to criticize someone who didn’t take the time to understand other computer concepts that had been around for years and then attempted to speak intelligently about them?
- chrischattin 7y ago
  The term serverless is not a metaphor like your examples, it's a contradiction. Big difference. I feel like understanding the "computer concepts" makes the term seem even more absurd.
  - scarface74 7y ago
    It’s an abstraction - just like every other computer concept.
    - wodny 7y ago
      An abstraction where "positive" and "negative" mean the same just for safety so they can't be confused with each other.
      - scarface74 7y ago
        You’ve never worked with C code that had to run on both big endian and little endian systems that had to share a common byte protocol. Where two bytes in the same order can mean something completely different. There are a lot of things “confusing” about computer science when you don’t take the time to learn it.
        wodny 7y ago
        On the contrary, I've worked with 8 and {32,64}bit x {LE,BE} chips many times and wrote quite a lot of network code in C. But you're mixing syntax with semantics.
        scarface74 7y ago
        Which byte is the high order byte is just as much semantics defined by the chip vendor that would be confusing to the uninitiated as “Serverless” would be to an old school net ops person who doesn’t know anything about cloud computing.
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- c-cube 7y ago
  It's misleading because "serverless" intuitively means peer to peer, where everything runs on clients and there are truly no servers. So unlike "bug" it has an intuitive meaning that is the opposite of what the buzzword now means.
  - scarface74 7y ago
    Serverless has never been used in the context of peer to peer. And “bug” isn’t anymore “intuitive” to the uninitiated.

scarface74 7y ago

How is it any more misleading than “bugs”, “containers”, “the cloud”,”server farms”, etc. Wouldn’t you be the first to criticize someone who didn’t take the time to understand other computer concepts that had been around for years and then attempted to speak intelligently about them?

chrischattin 7y ago
The term serverless is not a metaphor like your examples, it's a contradiction. Big difference. I feel like understanding the "computer concepts" makes the term seem even more absurd.
- scarface74 7y ago
  It’s an abstraction - just like every other computer concept.
  - wodny 7y ago
    An abstraction where "positive" and "negative" mean the same just for safety so they can't be confused with each other.
    - scarface74 7y ago
      You’ve never worked with C code that had to run on both big endian and little endian systems that had to share a common byte protocol. Where two bytes in the same order can mean something completely different. There are a lot of things “confusing” about computer science when you don’t take the time to learn it.
      - wodny 7y ago
        On the contrary, I've worked with 8 and {32,64}bit x {LE,BE} chips many times and wrote quite a lot of network code in C. But you're mixing syntax with semantics.
        scarface74 7y ago
        Which byte is the high order byte is just as much semantics defined by the chip vendor that would be confusing to the uninitiated as “Serverless” would be to an old school net ops person who doesn’t know anything about cloud computing.
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c-cube 7y ago
It's misleading because "serverless" intuitively means peer to peer, where everything runs on clients and there are truly no servers. So unlike "bug" it has an intuitive meaning that is the opposite of what the buzzword now means.
- scarface74 7y ago
  Serverless has never been used in the context of peer to peer. And “bug” isn’t anymore “intuitive” to the uninitiated.