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>(Though I better be getting paid overtime for that weekend work if the schedule slip isn't the dev team's fault.) Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahaha... ca

>(Though I better be getting paid overtime for that weekend work if the schedule slip isn't the dev team's fault.) Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahaha... catches breath ...hahahahahahahahahahahahahaahha Not worked long in software eh?

jarek 16y ago
Long enough to learn to say "no."
- alnayyir 16y ago
  In my country, programmers work salary unless they're contractors and don't have any conception of overtime in their contracts. Maybe things are different where you are.
  - jarek 16y ago
    I'm paid salary and I'm under the impression that's the norm. Nevertheless there is a fairly standard work week and more than one way of compensation for exceeding that.
    - alnayyir 16y ago
      >there is a fairly standard work week and more than one way of compensation for exceeding that. I call it a raise or a promotion. Or keeping your job for doing it. You're salaried at a particular rate under the assumption that step up to the plate in case of emergency/deadline, otherwise they'd pay you less or pay you hourly. Which kind goes back to edw's anecdote about his dad. Rising to the occasion.
      - jarek 16y ago
        At my workplace we've been offered incentive bonuses or additional paid vacation time in addition to standard raises/promotions, but hey, whatever works for you and your employer. I doubt accepting unnecessary unrelated busywork is very strongly correlated with "rising to the occasion," unless the occasions are death marches.
        alnayyir 16y ago
        Crossing your wires chief. Unrelated busywork isn't what I was talking about, anymore.
      - chopsueyar 16y ago
        Respectfully, you are kind of acting like a dick. If one weekend, the toilets back up and he has to clean up the mess and deliver a milestone, he deserves a raise or rises to sr. dev? So he gets a raise, and now he has no reason to complain if the toilet backs up once a month while he is working that weekend?

jarek 16y ago

Long enough to learn to say "no."

alnayyir 16y ago
In my country, programmers work salary unless they're contractors and don't have any conception of overtime in their contracts. Maybe things are different where you are.
- jarek 16y ago
  I'm paid salary and I'm under the impression that's the norm. Nevertheless there is a fairly standard work week and more than one way of compensation for exceeding that.
  - alnayyir 16y ago
    >there is a fairly standard work week and more than one way of compensation for exceeding that. I call it a raise or a promotion. Or keeping your job for doing it. You're salaried at a particular rate under the assumption that step up to the plate in case of emergency/deadline, otherwise they'd pay you less or pay you hourly. Which kind goes back to edw's anecdote about his dad. Rising to the occasion.
    - jarek 16y ago
      At my workplace we've been offered incentive bonuses or additional paid vacation time in addition to standard raises/promotions, but hey, whatever works for you and your employer. I doubt accepting unnecessary unrelated busywork is very strongly correlated with "rising to the occasion," unless the occasions are death marches.
      - alnayyir 16y ago
        Crossing your wires chief. Unrelated busywork isn't what I was talking about, anymore.
    - chopsueyar 16y ago
      Respectfully, you are kind of acting like a dick. If one weekend, the toilets back up and he has to clean up the mess and deliver a milestone, he deserves a raise or rises to sr. dev? So he gets a raise, and now he has no reason to complain if the toilet backs up once a month while he is working that weekend?