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So why not remove the DRM after the first week then?

by username90 7y ago

STRiDEX 7y ago
Annoying bugs being patched is another reason to buy. Often cannot get the latest version without buying retail.
the_mitsuhiko 7y ago
What’s the benefit for the publisher to do that?
- username90 7y ago
  DRM often creates bugs and performance problems for users, so removing it makes users happy.
  - the_mitsuhiko 7y ago
    If they see it’s the cause they can decide. From that i can tell there is very little evidence that Denuvo causes problems if well implemented so i doubt there is much incentive to remove it.
    - as1mov 7y ago
      > From that i can tell there is very little evidence that Denuvo causes problems if well implemented so i doubt there is much incentive to remove it. The game will become unplayable after a decade or so if/when Denuvo decides to shut down it's servers. Lots of MMO's from early 2000's are already in this state. DRM like Denuvo is a disaster for long term preservation of games. I can take a movie from 1940 and watch it today with minimal effort, but the same can't be said for games. It's already difficult with rapidly shifting computing landscape (eg. try playing NFS Porsche Unleased on a Win10 PC), shit like Denuvo just adds insult to the injury for some hypothetical gain which might not even be real.
      - the_mitsuhiko 7y ago
        > game will become unplayable after a decade or so if/when Denuvo decides to shut down it's servers. Which is even more of a reason for a publisher not to remove it. Opens the possibility to do re-releases in the future.
sp332 7y ago
Doom removed it after four months. https://kotaku.com/denuvo-explains-why-doom-dropped-their-anti-piracy-tech-1790192362 https://kotaku.com/denuvo-explains-why-doom-dropped-their-an... Rime removed it after the DRM was cracked. https://www.pcgamesn.com/rime/rime-denuvo-removal https://www.pcgamesn.com/rime/rime-denuvo-removal Rage 2 and Hitman 2 also removed it after a while.

So why not remove the DRM after the first week then?

STRiDEX 7y ago

Annoying bugs being patched is another reason to buy. Often cannot get the latest version without buying retail.

the_mitsuhiko 7y ago

What’s the benefit for the publisher to do that?

username90 7y ago
DRM often creates bugs and performance problems for users, so removing it makes users happy.
- the_mitsuhiko 7y ago
  If they see it’s the cause they can decide. From that i can tell there is very little evidence that Denuvo causes problems if well implemented so i doubt there is much incentive to remove it.
  - as1mov 7y ago
    > From that i can tell there is very little evidence that Denuvo causes problems if well implemented so i doubt there is much incentive to remove it. The game will become unplayable after a decade or so if/when Denuvo decides to shut down it's servers. Lots of MMO's from early 2000's are already in this state. DRM like Denuvo is a disaster for long term preservation of games. I can take a movie from 1940 and watch it today with minimal effort, but the same can't be said for games. It's already difficult with rapidly shifting computing landscape (eg. try playing NFS Porsche Unleased on a Win10 PC), shit like Denuvo just adds insult to the injury for some hypothetical gain which might not even be real.
    - the_mitsuhiko 7y ago
      > game will become unplayable after a decade or so if/when Denuvo decides to shut down it's servers. Which is even more of a reason for a publisher not to remove it. Opens the possibility to do re-releases in the future.

sp332 7y ago

Doom removed it after four months. https://kotaku.com/denuvo-explains-why-doom-dropped-their-anti-piracy-tech-1790192362 https://kotaku.com/denuvo-explains-why-doom-dropped-their-an... Rime removed it after the DRM was cracked. https://www.pcgamesn.com/rime/rime-denuvo-removal https://www.pcgamesn.com/rime/rime-denuvo-removal Rage 2 and Hitman 2 also removed it after a while.