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I would dispute this - China did not permit women to own land until 1950. Furthermore, laws against domestic violence weren't enshrined until 2001. China cert

I would dispute this - China did not permit women to own land until 1950. Furthermore, laws against domestic violence weren't enshrined until 2001. China certainly has been liberalizing its gender laws at a faster clip than the west, which took the Women's Suffrage Movement several centuries.... but it's never been ahead of the curve.

angus77 16y ago
Interesting. Japan's never been a country that people would hold up as an example for gender equality, but women have always been "permitted" to own property---"permitted" as in: they never had that right taken away from them, and thus never had to fight to have it (in contrast to both China and the West).
widgetycrank 16y ago
>China did not permit women to own land until 1950. After 1950 men were not permitted to own land either. :P edit: In some ways China should really be looked at as two distinct demographics, urban and rural. They have vast different values that makes the country completely bipolar. The gender attitude among the urbanites are much more progressive, in some ways even more so than the west, while in the countryside they still practice infanticide. It may have to do with the fact that the communist ideology campaigns mostly targeted the cities, because Mao feared a bourgeoisie counter-revolution, while he already had grass root support from the countryside, so he took it for granted.
- gbog 16y ago
  This view on maoism and the infanticide allegation seem ungrounded to me. I know some alpha-males in China and they don't buy bags, they climb montains or sing in a punk band, like their mates in the West
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  - widgetycrank 16y ago
    I'm not sure which part about Maoism you are referring to. No, the infanticide is not well-grounded, just reports. I'm Chinese btw. I actually don't know anyone who buys these bags, I only see them on the streets occasionally. Giant wallets/strapless hand bags seem to be much more common among the middle-aged men. Most young people wear regular messenger bags.

angus77 16y ago

Interesting. Japan's never been a country that people would hold up as an example for gender equality, but women have always been "permitted" to own property---"permitted" as in: they never had that right taken away from them, and thus never had to fight to have it (in contrast to both China and the West).

widgetycrank 16y ago

>China did not permit women to own land until 1950. After 1950 men were not permitted to own land either. :P edit: In some ways China should really be looked at as two distinct demographics, urban and rural. They have vast different values that makes the country completely bipolar. The gender attitude among the urbanites are much more progressive, in some ways even more so than the west, while in the countryside they still practice infanticide. It may have to do with the fact that the communist ideology campaigns mostly targeted the cities, because Mao feared a bourgeoisie counter-revolution, while he already had grass root support from the countryside, so he took it for granted.

gbog 16y ago
This view on maoism and the infanticide allegation seem ungrounded to me. I know some alpha-males in China and they don't buy bags, they climb montains or sing in a punk band, like their mates in the West
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- widgetycrank 16y ago
  I'm not sure which part about Maoism you are referring to. No, the infanticide is not well-grounded, just reports. I'm Chinese btw. I actually don't know anyone who buys these bags, I only see them on the streets occasionally. Giant wallets/strapless hand bags seem to be much more common among the middle-aged men. Most young people wear regular messenger bags.