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Who is going to choose who the good / bad people / companies / institutions are? Activists? You cannot (even in good faith) deny certain groups access without
by JanSt 7y ago
Who is going to choose who the good / bad people / companies / institutions are? Activists?
You cannot (even in good faith) deny certain groups access without undermining our societies. E. g. denying certain groups human rights is not acceptable. Even murderers have to have a fair trial and most countries don't allow the death penalty because human rights apply to everyone.
It's the same with open source. Once you deny access to certain groups, it's not _free_ anymore. It's politized. As a german I've learned a lot about where exclusion of certain groups and people lead. Who is the good guys? From my grandparents generation POV the bad guys where the "greedy jews" and they were the good. From my POV the reverse is true.
Values have to be universal, even if you don't like the other side. You don't have to like ICE, but either you stand with your values or you don't.
- BitwiseFool 7y agoWe have a system for determining these kinds of questions - the courts. It's not the open source community's responsibility to make sure other organizations are behaving ethically. If people believe ICE has broken laws and violated human rights they should be pursuing a trial, not attacking the organization's ability to host Git repos.
- mfer 7y agoThe courts deal with what's legal and illegal rather than what's right or wrong or ethical or unethical. This situation appears to be a case where people are trying to use free market pressure to influence companies to not do business with those they deem doing something wrong or unethical rather than illegal.
- mschuster91 7y ago> If people believe ICE has broken laws and violated human rights they should be pursuing a trial That would require a fair and balanced court system which the US lacks.
- CompanionCuuube 7y agoThis is the same kind of justification for taking the law into your own hands because you don't think that the justice system will do its job.