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> The Vision Fund reported an operating loss of $8.9 billion in October related to WeWork and Uber. The losses are especially concerning because of the financia
by zepearl 7y ago
> The Vision Fund reported an operating loss of $8.9 billion in October related to WeWork and Uber. The losses are especially concerning because of the financial structure of the fund, 40% of which takes the form of preferred stock that promises investors 7% per year. That interest works out to as much as $2.8 billion annually.
I'm not a believer of the Vision Fund (but it's just a subjective opinion - I'm a pessimist).
> When SoftBank announced that it expected to raise more than $100 billion for Vision Fund 2 in July, the firm touted corporate backers Microsoft, Amazon, Foxconn and several financial institutions. But it only mentioned one sovereign wealth fund, from the government of Kazakhstan, which has roughly $60 billion in assets - a far cry from the hundreds of billions controlled by PIF and Mubadala.
I watched a few documentaries about Kazakhstan last year (for no particular reason - I was just randomly watching TV) and (technically) it seems to be a nice country which has a nice mix of many climates (deserts, mountains, plains - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kazakhstan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kazakhstan ) and has as well many natural resources (oil, gas, uranium, metals) and is currently trying very hard to develop.
I remember that at that time I mentally wished them well, but when I read now about their involvement in the Vision Fund I immediately thought "hopefully they didn't bet too much on it"... .
- zozbot234 7y ago> I remember that at that time I mentally wished them well, but when I read now about their involvement in the Vision Fund I immediately thought "hopefully they didn't bet too much on it"... Strange choice indeed. Makes you wonder if Borat Sagdiyev was involved somehow.
- puranjay 7y agoBorat wouldn't be able to recognize the Kazakhstan of today. I went on a mini tour of the "Stans", covering Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan. Chinese money has radically transformed Kazakhstan. Their per capita GDP is nearly the same as China and the capital city has world class infrastructure now.
- zepearl 7y agoI hope that as well the rest of the country (not only the capital) got/will get some benefits (e.g. infrastructure, government not totally focused only on the capital, etc...)? > Chinese money has radically transformed Kazakhstan Was it financed (at least partially) by Cina? I don't remember "Cina" being mentioned in the docs I saw (they were more focused on the nature and/or the people living there being kind-of-ex-russians and/or the resources and/or about the regime).