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> Allow users to votekick and voteban. Provide the server software for players to host their own servers and provide their own solutions to these problems. Thi
by wyldfire 7y ago
> Allow users to votekick and voteban. Provide the server software for players to host their own servers and provide their own solutions to these problems.
This might still be the best compromise but it is terribly frustrating to be accused of cheating because of different skill levels or tactics.
- McAtNite 7y agoNot to mention the ease that that feature can be abused. What’s to stop the opposing team from just vote kicking the top players on your team? I spent my entire middle school life playing Starcraft. When SC2 came out the same rush tactics I learned in SC1 worked. I was often accused of hacking simply because I had years of experience tweaking the fastest build method.
- smabie 7y agoAssuming you need a majority to ban and teams are equal, everything?
- vitaflo 7y ago>Not to mention the ease that that feature can be abused. What’s to stop the opposing team from just vote kicking the top players on your team? This is exactly what happened when they had this feature in Overwatch. One of the top (legit) Widow players could not find a game because everyone he played against vote banned him from their games. He was basically unable to play the game because he was too good at it.
- bsder 7y agoSure, but you have to expect that. So, you look at the votebans, and you zap the people doing it unfairly. Or, even better, a voteban, legitimate or not, always costs you something--so you think twice before swinging the hammer. These systems always seem to fail because there is no accountability. You can't allow actions without accountability for those same actions. The problem is that accountability means involving humans and humans don't scale.
- celticmusic 7y agopeople didn't want to play with him, I don't see the problem.
- freeopinion 7y agoI hear ya. Everytime I show up at the elementary school basketball court down the street, all the little kids complain about my skills. They never let me play.
- 15155 7y agoI've seen this handled by not allowing the enemy team to initiate a votekick/voteban against a member of the other team. This method has problems, but those could be rectified later via human moderation and other means.
- 14 7y agoAgreed. I play War Thunder and have had a couple times been accused of cheating. I would not risk my annual paid account to sit there and cheat. I have invested thousands of hours on that account and that alone is worth way more then any money. I do not cheat is my point. But at times I just blast a shot across the board and you hit a guy. So how do you distinguish between god shots and cheating?
- BookmarkSaver 7y agoThere are some ways, but they are often somewhat invasive, and basically none are possible for a human player to use while in game.
- daenz 7y agoTrue, but when you get accused of cheating for having a wicked hot streak, you know it's kind of one of the best compliments you can get :)