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> Beating the hell out of a high revving motor You really lost me there. What's a noise got to do with anything - to see how silly it is, just put on speakers

> Beating the hell out of a high revving motor You really lost me there. What's a noise got to do with anything - to see how silly it is, just put on speakers and turn on a revving sound. Or get an electric vehicle the generates a revving sound (inside your vehicle preferably to others) - so now tell me what's the revving sound do?

whalesalad 7y ago
If you don't know you don't know. It’s not something that can be explained. It’s like sex... tough to explain to someone who’s never experienced it. https://youtu.be/AAsbucFABNE https://youtu.be/AAsbucFABNE https://youtu.be/ECpM31zrdMY https://youtu.be/ECpM31zrdMY (skip to :30 seconds -- this might be the most badass thing I have ever seen) https://youtu.be/XOl9O9FSB9E https://youtu.be/XOl9O9FSB9E (skip a few minutes in ... but this is a horrible driver and not the best sound quality) So to answer your question noise matters a lot - to a lot of people.
- glofish 7y ago
  What makes you think I never experienced a revving engine? Heh. You can't explain it because it is all in your head, it is an illusion, a subjective sense of empowerment that does not actually exist. It is a yearning by people that cannot make any other mark in the world, just a big noise. Look how much noise I can make! It is an atavistic feeling of the lizard brain. You are neither better, nor more successful, nor looked up - it is just noise and that noise satisfies you, because it makes you (mistakenly) believe that people are paying attention to you.
  - whalesalad 7y ago
    Or I just like the noise. I have the most fun with my car when I’m in the middle of absolute nowhere with no one else in sight or earshot. Your argument is way off base.
    - xvector 7y ago
      The noise of a good engine is something I miss myself. There is something to be said for the elegance of silence and sheer power, though!
NeedMoreTea 7y ago
It's not at all silly. A flat crank V8, or flyby from something Merlin engined are some of the nicest sounds to come out of engineering, while most EVs give off a most unappealing note in the cabin. Hard to argue with EV performance though. It's easily fixed, and I predict before too long the premium makes like Porsche, Aston etc will get there, simply by including sound profiles in their EVs. Car makers already tune cabin and door sound, so it sounds "right", and have varying baffles to send more engine note to the cabin when you hit sport mode. They can figure out downloadable sound packs to go with their EVs -- choose your favourite from straight six, v8, v12 etc, maybe some completely off the wall ones. Probably sensible to pipe some limited amount of that outside the car too, considering many EVs are dangerously silent at low speed, and some jurisdictions are bringing in a minimum EV sound level below 25mph (IIRC) to compensate.
- whalesalad 7y ago
  You'll see more and more of this. The Porsche Taycan makes a fake noise at low speed. The Audi e-Tron does the same. I walked by one the other day that was reversing out of a parking spot and it sounded extremely strange: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUcbXplAvSc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUcbXplAvSc
  - NeedMoreTea 7y ago
    Odd noise from that Audi, but effective enough to make you look.

whalesalad 7y ago

If you don't know you don't know. It’s not something that can be explained. It’s like sex... tough to explain to someone who’s never experienced it. https://youtu.be/AAsbucFABNE https://youtu.be/AAsbucFABNE https://youtu.be/ECpM31zrdMY https://youtu.be/ECpM31zrdMY (skip to :30 seconds -- this might be the most badass thing I have ever seen) https://youtu.be/XOl9O9FSB9E https://youtu.be/XOl9O9FSB9E (skip a few minutes in ... but this is a horrible driver and not the best sound quality) So to answer your question noise matters a lot - to a lot of people.

glofish 7y ago
What makes you think I never experienced a revving engine? Heh. You can't explain it because it is all in your head, it is an illusion, a subjective sense of empowerment that does not actually exist. It is a yearning by people that cannot make any other mark in the world, just a big noise. Look how much noise I can make! It is an atavistic feeling of the lizard brain. You are neither better, nor more successful, nor looked up - it is just noise and that noise satisfies you, because it makes you (mistakenly) believe that people are paying attention to you.
- whalesalad 7y ago
  Or I just like the noise. I have the most fun with my car when I’m in the middle of absolute nowhere with no one else in sight or earshot. Your argument is way off base.
  - xvector 7y ago
    The noise of a good engine is something I miss myself. There is something to be said for the elegance of silence and sheer power, though!

NeedMoreTea 7y ago

It's not at all silly. A flat crank V8, or flyby from something Merlin engined are some of the nicest sounds to come out of engineering, while most EVs give off a most unappealing note in the cabin. Hard to argue with EV performance though. It's easily fixed, and I predict before too long the premium makes like Porsche, Aston etc will get there, simply by including sound profiles in their EVs. Car makers already tune cabin and door sound, so it sounds "right", and have varying baffles to send more engine note to the cabin when you hit sport mode. They can figure out downloadable sound packs to go with their EVs -- choose your favourite from straight six, v8, v12 etc, maybe some completely off the wall ones. Probably sensible to pipe some limited amount of that outside the car too, considering many EVs are dangerously silent at low speed, and some jurisdictions are bringing in a minimum EV sound level below 25mph (IIRC) to compensate.

whalesalad 7y ago
You'll see more and more of this. The Porsche Taycan makes a fake noise at low speed. The Audi e-Tron does the same. I walked by one the other day that was reversing out of a parking spot and it sounded extremely strange: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUcbXplAvSc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUcbXplAvSc
- NeedMoreTea 7y ago
  Odd noise from that Audi, but effective enough to make you look.