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>We can't do business as usual, that's over. The alternative is what? Contract GDP in every nation until carbon emissions are below target? You think people wi

>We can't do business as usual, that's over. The alternative is what? Contract GDP in every nation until carbon emissions are below target? You think people will allow you to go through something larger a great depression in order to meet climate targets? Did you not see the shitshow that happened in Chile and France when those governments tried to hike gasoline taxes by a small amount? There is very little we can do over the next few decades to curb emissions. Solar and wind are not viable replacements for coal and natural gas (and are disastrous for the environment due to the requirement for exotic minerals and land-use requirements). Nuclear power is, but the environmental movement is actively blocking re-investment, and we're so far behind that it would take decades to jump-start the industry. Outside of energy generation, freight (sea and air), as well as air travel have no obvious non-fossil fuel alternatives. There are also thousands of petroleum products that don't have obvious alternatives either. OK... so let's act. What do you do?

throwlaplace 7y ago
>Contract GDP in every nation until carbon emissions are below target? well in rich nations yes but of course it'll absolutely never ever ever happen. people holding out hope for renewables are deluding themselves. i's just not happening. i don't know what the value of "remaining hopeful" is.
Accipitriform 7y ago
> Nuclear power is, but the environmental movement is actively blocking re-investment, and we're so far behind that it would take decades to jump-start the industry. That isn't true. With desire and enough money, we could be churning out small modular reactors (SMRs) by the thousands. ThorCon, Nuscale, Terrapower and many others have designs. In fact, that's my recommendation for the conservatives/populists. Take climate change away as an issue by promoting the only workable plan - a massive shift to nuclear power generation along with "renewables". Even if global warming isn't an emergency, clean air is a good thing, and so is cheap, plentiful power.

throwlaplace 7y ago

>Contract GDP in every nation until carbon emissions are below target? well in rich nations yes but of course it'll absolutely never ever ever happen. people holding out hope for renewables are deluding themselves. i's just not happening. i don't know what the value of "remaining hopeful" is.

Accipitriform 7y ago

> Nuclear power is, but the environmental movement is actively blocking re-investment, and we're so far behind that it would take decades to jump-start the industry. That isn't true. With desire and enough money, we could be churning out small modular reactors (SMRs) by the thousands. ThorCon, Nuscale, Terrapower and many others have designs. In fact, that's my recommendation for the conservatives/populists. Take climate change away as an issue by promoting the only workable plan - a massive shift to nuclear power generation along with "renewables". Even if global warming isn't an emergency, clean air is a good thing, and so is cheap, plentiful power.