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We handle cheating in our Battlefield 1942 server by requiring players to submit their public IP to admins to be explicitly whitelisted. There have been numerou

We handle cheating in our Battlefield 1942 server by requiring players to submit their public IP to admins to be explicitly whitelisted. There have been numerous cheaters and trolls we have easily banned over the years. http://ea117.com/access http://ea117.com/access gets 20 players/night at 7PM.. It plays the “desert combat” mod — the makers of that mod were acquihired by DICE. It’s also really easy to reinstall... http://www.mediafire.com/file/v2dj55nwoxz84o8/BF1942DCF_setu.. http://www.mediafire.com/file/v2dj55nwoxz84o8/BF1942DCF_setu....

johnchristopher 7y ago
People are still playing the original BF ? Is Eod still being played ? Might be worth digging up the disc for an evening :-).
- dvtrn 7y ago
  Yup. I'm in a gaming group, several members are modders and we have weekly "operations" every Saturday, complete with briefings, de-briefings, intelligence gathering...we get kinda ridiculous with it but yup
- michaelmrose 7y ago
  People are still playing half life 2 deathmatch.
  - fluffything 7y ago
    People are still playing half life 1 deathmatch.
    - SiempreViernes 7y ago
      Aren't people still playing quake?
      - mrguyorama 7y ago
        There is still a (small) competitive community around DOOM's deathmatch
      - fluffything 7y ago
        I'm still playing Quake 3 CPMA, so I guess people are still playing Quake, and Doom, and maybe even the original Wolfenstein 3D.
        int_19h 7y ago
        Wolf3D didn't have multiplayer. But yes, people do still play the original Doom. There are a bunch of ports dedicated to it: https://zandronum.com/ https://zandronum.com/ https://odamex.net/ https://odamex.net/ https://www.zdaemon.org/ https://www.zdaemon.org/
      - ThatPlayer 7y ago
        Quake Live, which is pretty close to Quake 3, still has a somewhat active player base https://steamcharts.com/app/282440 https://steamcharts.com/app/282440
slenk 7y ago
...you're still playing Desert Combat? Holy shit. I might have to join
- MaxBarraclough 7y ago
  Desert Combat was fantastic. I don't think it would be an overstatement to say that mod set the course of the subsequent Battlefield series. If I recall correctly, EA even hired its developers to work on BF2.
dwyerm 7y ago
Are player IP addresses stable enough to be used in this way? I've always considered my own IP to be dynamic, despite rarely changing.
- zamadatix 7y ago
  I've had the same v4 address with ATT for over a year. It's technically possible for a dhcp server to deny a renew and have the client initiate a discover to be given a different IP but in practice that would break everyone's active connections each time so ISPs just let DHCP renew until you stop asking. For something with the user population of a community game server you could also allow the full subnet and probably never run into a user collision.
- michaelmrose 7y ago
  >When your router receives a non-static DHCP assigned IP address from your ISP there is a pre-defined time limit built into the assignment, this time limit is called a DHCP Lease. The typical lease time for ISP’s in the United States is roughly 7 days. However in most instances your router will renegotiate this lease prior to its expiration. During the lease renegotiation, it is very common for the same IP to be reassigned to your router. In fact our research has discovered many homes that have theoretically dynamic IP’s, but have held the same IP for multiple years. Because of this recursive reassignment the typical location targeted by El Toro has held the same IP address for 7 months. https://www.eltoro.com/how-long-does-an-ip-address-stay-attached-to-a-home-or-business/ https://www.eltoro.com/how-long-does-an-ip-address-stay-atta... It seems a typical location has the same ip address for around 7 months and can indeed have the same address for far longer if your service isn't interrupted, you don't change or reboot networking hardware, and you don't try to connect to the game from your laptop at your friends house.
- user5994461 7y ago
  No, they're not stable. My current ISP in the UK and my previous one in France are changing IPs every few weeks or so in practice, or when the box is rebooted, or when the connection is lost for a while between the box and the ISP. The game server would prevent many (most?) players by whitelisting IPs, but I bet they couldn't care less about blocking players or they wouldn't require whitelisting in the first place.
nkrisc 7y ago
I hope I can dig out my discs! By the way, the installation guide is super helpful. I haven't considered playing bf1942 for a long time and the detailed instructions on how to get everything running again is fantastic. I haven't been this excited to play an old game in quite a while.

johnchristopher 7y ago

People are still playing the original BF ? Is Eod still being played ? Might be worth digging up the disc for an evening :-).

dvtrn 7y ago
Yup. I'm in a gaming group, several members are modders and we have weekly "operations" every Saturday, complete with briefings, de-briefings, intelligence gathering...we get kinda ridiculous with it but yup
michaelmrose 7y ago
People are still playing half life 2 deathmatch.
- fluffything 7y ago
  People are still playing half life 1 deathmatch.
  - SiempreViernes 7y ago
    Aren't people still playing quake?
    - mrguyorama 7y ago
      There is still a (small) competitive community around DOOM's deathmatch
    - fluffything 7y ago
      I'm still playing Quake 3 CPMA, so I guess people are still playing Quake, and Doom, and maybe even the original Wolfenstein 3D.
      - int_19h 7y ago
        Wolf3D didn't have multiplayer. But yes, people do still play the original Doom. There are a bunch of ports dedicated to it: https://zandronum.com/ https://zandronum.com/ https://odamex.net/ https://odamex.net/ https://www.zdaemon.org/ https://www.zdaemon.org/
    - ThatPlayer 7y ago
      Quake Live, which is pretty close to Quake 3, still has a somewhat active player base https://steamcharts.com/app/282440 https://steamcharts.com/app/282440

slenk 7y ago

...you're still playing Desert Combat? Holy shit. I might have to join

MaxBarraclough 7y ago
Desert Combat was fantastic. I don't think it would be an overstatement to say that mod set the course of the subsequent Battlefield series. If I recall correctly, EA even hired its developers to work on BF2.

dwyerm 7y ago

Are player IP addresses stable enough to be used in this way? I've always considered my own IP to be dynamic, despite rarely changing.

zamadatix 7y ago
I've had the same v4 address with ATT for over a year. It's technically possible for a dhcp server to deny a renew and have the client initiate a discover to be given a different IP but in practice that would break everyone's active connections each time so ISPs just let DHCP renew until you stop asking. For something with the user population of a community game server you could also allow the full subnet and probably never run into a user collision.
michaelmrose 7y ago
>When your router receives a non-static DHCP assigned IP address from your ISP there is a pre-defined time limit built into the assignment, this time limit is called a DHCP Lease. The typical lease time for ISP’s in the United States is roughly 7 days. However in most instances your router will renegotiate this lease prior to its expiration. During the lease renegotiation, it is very common for the same IP to be reassigned to your router. In fact our research has discovered many homes that have theoretically dynamic IP’s, but have held the same IP for multiple years. Because of this recursive reassignment the typical location targeted by El Toro has held the same IP address for 7 months. https://www.eltoro.com/how-long-does-an-ip-address-stay-attached-to-a-home-or-business/ https://www.eltoro.com/how-long-does-an-ip-address-stay-atta... It seems a typical location has the same ip address for around 7 months and can indeed have the same address for far longer if your service isn't interrupted, you don't change or reboot networking hardware, and you don't try to connect to the game from your laptop at your friends house.
user5994461 7y ago
No, they're not stable. My current ISP in the UK and my previous one in France are changing IPs every few weeks or so in practice, or when the box is rebooted, or when the connection is lost for a while between the box and the ISP. The game server would prevent many (most?) players by whitelisting IPs, but I bet they couldn't care less about blocking players or they wouldn't require whitelisting in the first place.

nkrisc 7y ago

I hope I can dig out my discs! By the way, the installation guide is super helpful. I haven't considered playing bf1942 for a long time and the detailed instructions on how to get everything running again is fantastic. I haven't been this excited to play an old game in quite a while.