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Incorrect. It's possible for autistic adults to relate well to non-autistic adults in many circumstances (discussing technical things at work, for example, or

by LPTS 18y ago

Incorrect. It's possible for autistic adults to relate well to non-autistic adults in many circumstances (discussing technical things at work, for example, or discussing common interests) without the extra effort. There will always be some sort of gap, but it's not always even that big of a deal. My comments are particular to children both because they are more at risk of being inadvertently harmed, and because they have less (in some cases, no) compensatory defense mechanisms. I don't use AIM but I will drop you an email after I get off my ass for a half hour and grab something to eat from my trailer.

xlnt 18y ago
You should recognize that you need the help of a person who doesn't share your mind-blindness to make appropriate judgements about children and how to relate to them. You absolutely cannot figure out how to treat kids on your own if you are on the spectrum. So suppose we take the list of all the people who have similar views to me, on these issues. Then we go through the list and check if each person is autistic. If we find one who isn't autistic, then can we count these as valid positions?
- LPTS 18y ago
  No, because a non-autistic person can use their mirror neurons to imitate the behavior a person who has it. (This is the mechanism by which all of human culture evolved). I'll drop you that email, maybe we are getting too far off topic.
  - dbrush 18y ago
    The existence of mirror neurons is a theory. Also, you're confusing Autism with all Autism Spectrum Disorders as a whole; Asperger's Syndrome, for example. Autism != Asperger's Syndrome
    - LPTS 18y ago
      I am not confusing them so much as avoiding trying to write a textbook on autism when addressing the original issue. I was sloppy. I may not have succeeded at my goal of not writing too much. The existence of mirror neurons is not just a theory. A mirror neuron is (by definition) a neuron that fires both when you do something and someone else has done something. Those are observed. It is a theory that it causes autism, but not a theory that they fire less in autistic children, or that these areas of the brain are almost precisely the same places where autistic spectrum people have thinner brains then controls.
      - stcredzero 18y ago
        than not then

by LPTS 18y ago

xlnt 18y ago

You should recognize that you need the help of a person who doesn't share your mind-blindness to make appropriate judgements about children and how to relate to them. You absolutely cannot figure out how to treat kids on your own if you are on the spectrum. So suppose we take the list of all the people who have similar views to me, on these issues. Then we go through the list and check if each person is autistic. If we find one who isn't autistic, then can we count these as valid positions?

LPTS 18y ago
No, because a non-autistic person can use their mirror neurons to imitate the behavior a person who has it. (This is the mechanism by which all of human culture evolved). I'll drop you that email, maybe we are getting too far off topic.
- dbrush 18y ago
  The existence of mirror neurons is a theory. Also, you're confusing Autism with all Autism Spectrum Disorders as a whole; Asperger's Syndrome, for example. Autism != Asperger's Syndrome
  - LPTS 18y ago
    I am not confusing them so much as avoiding trying to write a textbook on autism when addressing the original issue. I was sloppy. I may not have succeeded at my goal of not writing too much. The existence of mirror neurons is not just a theory. A mirror neuron is (by definition) a neuron that fires both when you do something and someone else has done something. Those are observed. It is a theory that it causes autism, but not a theory that they fire less in autistic children, or that these areas of the brain are almost precisely the same places where autistic spectrum people have thinner brains then controls.
    - stcredzero 18y ago
      than not then