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There are some good EVs that can compete with Tesla's range. The Hyundai Kona has a range of 258 miles and the Chevy Bolt has a range of 238-258, depending on i

There are some good EVs that can compete with Tesla's range. The Hyundai Kona has a range of 258 miles and the Chevy Bolt has a range of 238-258, depending on if you get the 2019 or 2020 model. I own a Bolt in Maine and absolutely love it.

SEJeff 7y ago
My 2018 Model 3 LR AWD has a range of 310 miles. That Bolt is not really competing with current Tesla models. I’m all for more EVs, but find it disheartening to know that in 2019 and 2020, existing manufacturers are barely competing with the 2012 model S on range.
- mbbutler 7y ago
  Your Model 3 also cost ~$15k more than my bolt. Possibly even more since I was able to get out the door for $25k before taxes and ~$2k tax refund. The Tesla competitor to the Bolt is not the Model 3 Long Range, it is the Model 3 SR with ~250 miles of range. The 2020 Bolt beats the Model 3 SR in terms of both range and price.
  - ScottFree 7y ago
    > I was able to get out the door for $25k before taxes and ~$2k tax refund MSRP on the 2020 bolt is $36,620. How were you were able to talk them down $10k on the price?
    - mbbutler 7y ago
      I honestly don't know. I got a 2019 at the end of this year right before the 2020's were released. I had found a couple decent deals on Hyundai Konas, which still have the full federal tax credit, and when I pointed this out to the Chevy dealer they came back with a significant amount of dealer cash back. In the end I got $9k off from the dealer and $2k off from a Maine-exclusive tax credit that is related to VW's emissions fraud settlement. I think I just got really lucky.
      - ScottFree 7y ago
        I wish I could upvote you again. Your response was really good and exactly what I wanted to know. I have no idea why you're being downvoted. :(
        mbbutler 7y ago
        Thanks for the sentiment. I assume it has something to do with speaking favorably about an EV vehicle that isn't a Tesla while in a Tesla thread.

SEJeff 7y ago

My 2018 Model 3 LR AWD has a range of 310 miles. That Bolt is not really competing with current Tesla models. I’m all for more EVs, but find it disheartening to know that in 2019 and 2020, existing manufacturers are barely competing with the 2012 model S on range.

mbbutler 7y ago
Your Model 3 also cost ~$15k more than my bolt. Possibly even more since I was able to get out the door for $25k before taxes and ~$2k tax refund. The Tesla competitor to the Bolt is not the Model 3 Long Range, it is the Model 3 SR with ~250 miles of range. The 2020 Bolt beats the Model 3 SR in terms of both range and price.
- ScottFree 7y ago
  > I was able to get out the door for $25k before taxes and ~$2k tax refund MSRP on the 2020 bolt is $36,620. How were you were able to talk them down $10k on the price?
  - mbbutler 7y ago
    I honestly don't know. I got a 2019 at the end of this year right before the 2020's were released. I had found a couple decent deals on Hyundai Konas, which still have the full federal tax credit, and when I pointed this out to the Chevy dealer they came back with a significant amount of dealer cash back. In the end I got $9k off from the dealer and $2k off from a Maine-exclusive tax credit that is related to VW's emissions fraud settlement. I think I just got really lucky.
    - ScottFree 7y ago
      I wish I could upvote you again. Your response was really good and exactly what I wanted to know. I have no idea why you're being downvoted. :(
      - mbbutler 7y ago
        Thanks for the sentiment. I assume it has something to do with speaking favorably about an EV vehicle that isn't a Tesla while in a Tesla thread.