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Sure with a 250w ebike and no cars go nuts. I have a 1500w motor and share a road with semi trucks

by nkingsy 7y ago

retrovm 7y ago
You're welcome to wear whatever you want while riding your illegal whatever-you-call-it. Don't scold the rest of us.
- Japhy_Ryder 7y ago
  You seem very defensive in your position of advocating people be less safe on their bikes. Quite odd. Anyway, good day. "There is good evidence that bicycle helmets are effective in reducing head and facial injury in the event of a crash [...]" [0] 0. Ivers R. Systematic reviews of bicycle helmet research. Inj Prev. 2007;13(3):190. doi:10.1136/ip.2007.015966 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2598379/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2598379/
  - retrovm 7y ago
    The evidence in favor of wearing a helmet while in a car is just as strong, but nobody is up here advocating for that. By the way, helmets on bicyclists tend to make car drivers behave like even bigger jackholes than usual. https://psyarxiv.com/nxw2k https://psyarxiv.com/nxw2k "... public health research might be best served by shifting focus to risk elimination rather than harm mitigation."
    - blacksmith_tb 7y ago
      The argument could be just as strong, but since very few people wear helmets in cars (only Formula 1 etc.), I think it's unlikely "the evidence" is just as strong; however, by all means provide us a reference.
Fricken 7y ago
And that's why it's disingenuous to frame cycling safety as a binary that's contingent on whether or not a particular cyclist is wearing a helmet. The risk equation for you is vastly different from someone who hops on their cruiser bike to go 10 blocks on a protected bike trail to the grocery store. Once you factor in all the variables, the helmet is only a small part of the equation, and probably not going to do you much good should you find yourself under the wheels of a semi-truck. Yet having that piece of styrofoam strapped to your head has given you the (possibly misplaced) confidence to go fast with semi-trucks.
- localhost 7y ago
  Not to mention that it dehumanizes you in the eyes of drivers.
Symbiote 7y ago
That's classified as an electric motorbike in the EU, if it's a legal, registered vehicle. You need the appropriate driving license and insurance to drive one. Alternatively, if it's a modified bicycle, it's simply illegal on public roads.
CydeWeys 7y ago
The helmet isn't going to protect you from semis, unfortunately. Here in NYC most cyclist deaths are caused by being run over by larger vehicles, which can easily be fatal even at slow speeds regardless of whether you're wearing a helmet or not. No helmet is going to support the weight of a truck. Now I do wear a bike helmet when biking for other reasons, but I give trucks wide leeway.

Sure with a 250w ebike and no cars go nuts. I have a 1500w motor and share a road with semi trucks

retrovm 7y ago

You're welcome to wear whatever you want while riding your illegal whatever-you-call-it. Don't scold the rest of us.

Japhy_Ryder 7y ago
You seem very defensive in your position of advocating people be less safe on their bikes. Quite odd. Anyway, good day. "There is good evidence that bicycle helmets are effective in reducing head and facial injury in the event of a crash [...]" [0] 0. Ivers R. Systematic reviews of bicycle helmet research. Inj Prev. 2007;13(3):190. doi:10.1136/ip.2007.015966 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2598379/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2598379/
- retrovm 7y ago
  The evidence in favor of wearing a helmet while in a car is just as strong, but nobody is up here advocating for that. By the way, helmets on bicyclists tend to make car drivers behave like even bigger jackholes than usual. https://psyarxiv.com/nxw2k https://psyarxiv.com/nxw2k "... public health research might be best served by shifting focus to risk elimination rather than harm mitigation."
  - blacksmith_tb 7y ago
    The argument could be just as strong, but since very few people wear helmets in cars (only Formula 1 etc.), I think it's unlikely "the evidence" is just as strong; however, by all means provide us a reference.

Fricken 7y ago

And that's why it's disingenuous to frame cycling safety as a binary that's contingent on whether or not a particular cyclist is wearing a helmet. The risk equation for you is vastly different from someone who hops on their cruiser bike to go 10 blocks on a protected bike trail to the grocery store. Once you factor in all the variables, the helmet is only a small part of the equation, and probably not going to do you much good should you find yourself under the wheels of a semi-truck. Yet having that piece of styrofoam strapped to your head has given you the (possibly misplaced) confidence to go fast with semi-trucks.

localhost 7y ago
Not to mention that it dehumanizes you in the eyes of drivers.

Symbiote 7y ago

That's classified as an electric motorbike in the EU, if it's a legal, registered vehicle. You need the appropriate driving license and insurance to drive one. Alternatively, if it's a modified bicycle, it's simply illegal on public roads.

CydeWeys 7y ago

The helmet isn't going to protect you from semis, unfortunately. Here in NYC most cyclist deaths are caused by being run over by larger vehicles, which can easily be fatal even at slow speeds regardless of whether you're wearing a helmet or not. No helmet is going to support the weight of a truck. Now I do wear a bike helmet when biking for other reasons, but I give trucks wide leeway.