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Moxie has always gaslit users with legitimate concerns because addressing them would mean giving up power. Signal is a self serving design and driven by self se
by ddevault 7y ago
Moxie has always gaslit users with legitimate concerns because addressing them would mean giving up power. Signal is a self serving design and driven by self serving decisions. I've written about this in depth before:
https://drewdevault.com/2018/08/08/Signal.html https://drewdevault.com/2018/08/08/Signal.html
I still stand by everything I said here, and lots more that goes unsaid in this article. Every single weird decision Signal makes is not because they've reasonably decided to come down on some side of the fence that others haven't - it's because their decisions serve moxie's wants above anyone else.
- dang 7y agoNo personal attacks on HN, please, regardless of how right you are or feel, or how wrong someone is or you feel they are. Maybe you don't owe that person better, but you owe this community better if you're posting here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- ddevault 7y agoSorry, you're right. I've edited it to be about the behavior instead of the person.
- tptacek 7y agoFrom the comment I see right now and the logic you're using here, "have you stopped beating your wife" wouldn't qualify as a personal attack.
- ddevault 7y agoAnd if we extrapolate your logic, we can never comment on anyone's bad behavior at all. My complaints are on topic for the article in question, I'm not just swinging at Moxie at random here.
- tptacek 7y agoThe "beating your wife" bit comes with words like "gaslight", "self-serving", and "moxie's wants above all else". I'm trying to imagine what the comment originally said, because the one you've edited is obviously a personal attack. Not to mention the fact that you appear to have just conceded my point. "But we were talking about Bob!" doesn't make it OK to ask Bob whether he's stopped beating his wife.