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5k people per VP seems reasonable, so 20? Then they can have 10 senior directors each with 500 persons under them.

• codemac 7y ago
  two pizza team = 8 ICs max reporting every 8 ICs + 1 manager = 9 every 8 managers = 1 director = 8 * 9 + 1 = 73 every 8 directors = 1 sr director = 8 * 73 + 1= 585 every 8 sr directors = 1 VP = 8 * 585 + 1 = 4681 every 8 VPs = 1 SVP = 8 * 4681 + 1 = 37449 every 8 SVPs = 1 EVP (c level exec) = 8 * 37449 + 1 = 299593 Clearly the problem is one of the large distribution of team sizes, rather than just "have less VPs".
  • JMTQp8lwXL 7y ago
    Certainly an anomaly, but there's a distribution to the number of ICs assigned to the lowest level managers (M1/M2s). I've seen anywhere from 3 to 30. The people with 30 basically just jumped from 1:1 to 1:1 on repeat biweekly.
  • username90 7y ago
    Problem is that there aren't enough people to every VP, so they fight for headcount and projects leading to frequent reorgs or projects shuttering to make room for VP's pet projects.
  • thrower123 7y ago
    It's interesting how closely these estimates correspond to military TOEs. It's almost like we've figured out over the course of thousands of years what the most effective general-purpose hierarchical organization is.