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I'm gonna sound really cliched but I have become really fascinated with Psychedelics thanks to the Joe Rogan podcast. I wouldn't say I am depressed but as some

I'm gonna sound really cliched but I have become really fascinated with Psychedelics thanks to the Joe Rogan podcast. I wouldn't say I am depressed but as someone who doesn't drink, smoke, drugs or take caffeine. I really want to try them. The fact that mushrooms have been used by shamans all around the world since neolithic times, is truly fascinating. I hope to try them at some point although at the moment I have been trying Sensory Deprivation Tanks and it really has reset my mind and emotions.

ianai 7y ago
I’d steer you toward kava kava as a legal and otc way to change your mind and emotions for the better or more open. Also St. John’s wort.
- r00fus 7y ago
  What source would you recommend? I've tried some name-brand kava tea and it didn't seem to do much.
  - ianai 7y ago
    I’ve had extracts that didn’t do much. Pills of the powder have helped. The biggest experience I had was with the full on blending of the powder in a blender following a YouTube recipe video-wakacon from amazon.
  - orasis 7y ago
    If you want to get high, by the bulk kava powder from Amazon, but it tastes absolutely terrible. For day to day use try the Yogi Tea with kava in it. It has cardamom so actually tastes good. The dose is very low so you’d need 3+ teabags to feel anything.
  - markdown 7y ago
    Avoid any product called "kava tea". It's not tea and can't be drunk like tea. Kavalactones aren't water soluble so simply steeping a teabag filled with powdered kava root in water won't do anything. Head over to /r/kava and the read the FAQ in the sidebar which includes a list of recommended vendors (and which ones to avoid).
- mothsonasloth 7y ago
  After googling, it appears that kava causes liver damage, thanks but no thanks
  - LinuxBender 7y ago
    Yes you probably would not want to take it for an extended period of time [1] There is not a direct causation link to liver damage as of yet. It may be that people have a preexisting issue that is exacerbated by kava. [1] - https://examine.com/supplements/kava/ https://examine.com/supplements/kava/
    - ianai 7y ago
      There was something of a hit campaign against it at one point. I forget the specifics, but it’s safe if you do your homework and buy from proven sources.
      - LinuxBender 7y ago
        That's happened to several food compounds. Scientists don't spend time on a compound unless there is a compelling medical need to do the research. There just isn't much money in supplements / foods as compared to prescription drugs and the risk of litigation is really high, according to a few of my favorite scientists that I follow.
  - orasis 7y ago
    Deeper googling might lead you to the conclusion that it’s totally safe. Anyway it’s not a psychedelic.
  - Fnoord 7y ago
    1 minute on Wikipedia told me it is only the root which is edible, the rest is extremely toxic and causes liver damage.
- LinuxBender 7y ago
  I would add in the non essential amino acid L-Theanine [1]. Has a nice calming and focusing effect. [1] - https://examine.com/supplements/theanine/ https://examine.com/supplements/theanine/
  - ianai 7y ago
    I get that from matcha in the morning. Very focused, almost driven sort of energy. Definitely a nootropic for my purposes.
  - redisman 7y ago
    Personally I didn't notice any difference before or after or during going through a bottle of it.
    - LinuxBender 7y ago
      I am not a neurologist nor a doctor and I am entirely guessing, so I should not even comment, but some people may not be affected by small amounts of amino acids like this depending on their diet, gaba receptors, existing amino acid intake such as already drinking green tea or using arginine or citruline, or other medications. It is entirely possible that your α waves are already elevated from something else or that this amino acid isn't metabolized correctly.
- orasis 7y ago
  kava is okay as a replacement for a muscle relaxer or alcohol if you want to drink dirt that makes you pee like a race horse, but, I wouldn’t put it anywhere in the same league therapeutically as psychedelics.

ianai 7y ago

I’d steer you toward kava kava as a legal and otc way to change your mind and emotions for the better or more open. Also St. John’s wort.

r00fus 7y ago
What source would you recommend? I've tried some name-brand kava tea and it didn't seem to do much.
- ianai 7y ago
  I’ve had extracts that didn’t do much. Pills of the powder have helped. The biggest experience I had was with the full on blending of the powder in a blender following a YouTube recipe video-wakacon from amazon.
- orasis 7y ago
  If you want to get high, by the bulk kava powder from Amazon, but it tastes absolutely terrible. For day to day use try the Yogi Tea with kava in it. It has cardamom so actually tastes good. The dose is very low so you’d need 3+ teabags to feel anything.
- markdown 7y ago
  Avoid any product called "kava tea". It's not tea and can't be drunk like tea. Kavalactones aren't water soluble so simply steeping a teabag filled with powdered kava root in water won't do anything. Head over to /r/kava and the read the FAQ in the sidebar which includes a list of recommended vendors (and which ones to avoid).
mothsonasloth 7y ago
After googling, it appears that kava causes liver damage, thanks but no thanks
- LinuxBender 7y ago
  Yes you probably would not want to take it for an extended period of time [1] There is not a direct causation link to liver damage as of yet. It may be that people have a preexisting issue that is exacerbated by kava. [1] - https://examine.com/supplements/kava/ https://examine.com/supplements/kava/
  - ianai 7y ago
    There was something of a hit campaign against it at one point. I forget the specifics, but it’s safe if you do your homework and buy from proven sources.
    - LinuxBender 7y ago
      That's happened to several food compounds. Scientists don't spend time on a compound unless there is a compelling medical need to do the research. There just isn't much money in supplements / foods as compared to prescription drugs and the risk of litigation is really high, according to a few of my favorite scientists that I follow.
- orasis 7y ago
  Deeper googling might lead you to the conclusion that it’s totally safe. Anyway it’s not a psychedelic.
- Fnoord 7y ago
  1 minute on Wikipedia told me it is only the root which is edible, the rest is extremely toxic and causes liver damage.
LinuxBender 7y ago
I would add in the non essential amino acid L-Theanine [1]. Has a nice calming and focusing effect. [1] - https://examine.com/supplements/theanine/ https://examine.com/supplements/theanine/
- ianai 7y ago
  I get that from matcha in the morning. Very focused, almost driven sort of energy. Definitely a nootropic for my purposes.
- redisman 7y ago
  Personally I didn't notice any difference before or after or during going through a bottle of it.
  - LinuxBender 7y ago
    I am not a neurologist nor a doctor and I am entirely guessing, so I should not even comment, but some people may not be affected by small amounts of amino acids like this depending on their diet, gaba receptors, existing amino acid intake such as already drinking green tea or using arginine or citruline, or other medications. It is entirely possible that your α waves are already elevated from something else or that this amino acid isn't metabolized correctly.
orasis 7y ago
kava is okay as a replacement for a muscle relaxer or alcohol if you want to drink dirt that makes you pee like a race horse, but, I wouldn’t put it anywhere in the same league therapeutically as psychedelics.