4 ms·

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21926724 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21926724 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moore%27s_law https://en.m.wikipedi

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21926724 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21926724 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moore%27s_law https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moore%27s_law https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennard_scaling https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennard_scaling https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effec... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wishful_thinking https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wishful_thinking

ncmncm 7y ago
And anybody can link to Wikipedia, but very evidently need not understand what it says.
- BubRoss 7y ago
  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proof_by_assertion https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proof_by_assertion
  - deleted 7y ago
    [deleted]
  - ncmncm 7y ago
    Proof by Wikipedia link does not even make the list of fallacies. 2015, Gordon Moore: "I see Moore's law dying here in the next decade or so." <http://spectrum.ieee.org/computing/hardware/gordon-moore-the-man-whose-name-means-progress> http://spectrum.ieee.org/computing/hardware/gordon-moore-the... Brian Krzanich, the former CEO of Intel: "Our cadence today is closer to two and a half years than two." <https://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2015/07/16/intel-rechisels-the-tablet-on-moores-law/> https://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2015/07/16/intel-rechisels-the-... John L. Hennessy; David A. Patterson (June 4, 2018): "The ending of Dennard Scaling and Moore’s Law also slowed this path; single core performance improved only 3% last year!" <https://iscaconf.org/isca2018/turing_lecture.html> https://iscaconf.org/isca2018/turing_lecture.html>
    - BubRoss 7y ago
      You didn't confront anything I linked. Again, Moore's law is about transistor density, which hasn't stopped yet and has gone into to more cores. It was never about single core performance. Now it seems like you are including dennard scaling after someone else mentioned it. You have a quote about the time frame increasing which has never been disputed either. I'm sure you can find links to some tech blogs that have the same misunderstandings as you do, why don't you go hunt those down too?
      - ncmncm 7y ago
        I will pass your comments along to Mr. Moore.
        BubRoss 7y ago
        I showed him already and he wondered why someone would say computers aren't getting faster when AMD released a 64 desktop.

ncmncm 7y ago

And anybody can link to Wikipedia, but very evidently need not understand what it says.

BubRoss 7y ago
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proof_by_assertion https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proof_by_assertion
- deleted 7y ago
  [deleted]
- ncmncm 7y ago
  Proof by Wikipedia link does not even make the list of fallacies. 2015, Gordon Moore: "I see Moore's law dying here in the next decade or so." <http://spectrum.ieee.org/computing/hardware/gordon-moore-the-man-whose-name-means-progress> http://spectrum.ieee.org/computing/hardware/gordon-moore-the... Brian Krzanich, the former CEO of Intel: "Our cadence today is closer to two and a half years than two." <https://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2015/07/16/intel-rechisels-the-tablet-on-moores-law/> https://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2015/07/16/intel-rechisels-the-... John L. Hennessy; David A. Patterson (June 4, 2018): "The ending of Dennard Scaling and Moore’s Law also slowed this path; single core performance improved only 3% last year!" <https://iscaconf.org/isca2018/turing_lecture.html> https://iscaconf.org/isca2018/turing_lecture.html>
  - BubRoss 7y ago
    You didn't confront anything I linked. Again, Moore's law is about transistor density, which hasn't stopped yet and has gone into to more cores. It was never about single core performance. Now it seems like you are including dennard scaling after someone else mentioned it. You have a quote about the time frame increasing which has never been disputed either. I'm sure you can find links to some tech blogs that have the same misunderstandings as you do, why don't you go hunt those down too?
    - ncmncm 7y ago
      I will pass your comments along to Mr. Moore.
      - BubRoss 7y ago
        I showed him already and he wondered why someone would say computers aren't getting faster when AMD released a 64 desktop.