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Sweden is, of course, infamous in the sex worker community for having its name attached to one of the more harmful forms of anti-sex work laws: https://medium.c

Sweden is, of course, infamous in the sex worker community for having its name attached to one of the more harmful forms of anti-sex work laws: https://medium.com/@aleknielsen/nordic-model-the-ongoing-criminalization-of-sex-workers-in-northern-europe-c1df02ba94ae https://medium.com/@aleknielsen/nordic-model-the-ongoing-cri... There are no utopias. European states are not better or worse, just differently bad than America.

username90 7y ago
I wouldn't call that law oppression, it might not be perfect but it isn't really a big deal either way.
- damnyou 7y ago
  It's a really big deal to my sex worker friends, and what they experience absolutely is oppression.
  - username90 7y ago
    Why don't they just take another job if the law is so problematic? It is not like being a sex worker is necessary to live a good life, it is just another job. Not like alcohol which is a significant part of the social fabric for basically the entire society.
    - damnyou 7y ago
      For many people it in fact is not a choice — other employers reject them based on how they look, or very often what gender they were assigned at birth. Even for those that it is, sex work tends to pay much better than most other choices — that allows people to support large networks on their income. This and many other arguments have been thoroughly dissected by sex workers and I have no interest in relitigating things here. You are welcome to do your own reading, starting from Amnesty International: https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2016/05/amnesty-international-publishes-policy-and-research-on-protection-of-sex-workers-rights/ https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2016/05/amnesty-inter... There are no utopias. Your country's laws are harmful and oppressive. You can certainly advocate for either incremental solutions (change the law) or more radical ones (smash the state), but there is no perfection, anywhere.

username90 7y ago

I wouldn't call that law oppression, it might not be perfect but it isn't really a big deal either way.

damnyou 7y ago
It's a really big deal to my sex worker friends, and what they experience absolutely is oppression.
- username90 7y ago
  Why don't they just take another job if the law is so problematic? It is not like being a sex worker is necessary to live a good life, it is just another job. Not like alcohol which is a significant part of the social fabric for basically the entire society.
  - damnyou 7y ago
    For many people it in fact is not a choice — other employers reject them based on how they look, or very often what gender they were assigned at birth. Even for those that it is, sex work tends to pay much better than most other choices — that allows people to support large networks on their income. This and many other arguments have been thoroughly dissected by sex workers and I have no interest in relitigating things here. You are welcome to do your own reading, starting from Amnesty International: https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2016/05/amnesty-international-publishes-policy-and-research-on-protection-of-sex-workers-rights/ https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2016/05/amnesty-inter... There are no utopias. Your country's laws are harmful and oppressive. You can certainly advocate for either incremental solutions (change the law) or more radical ones (smash the state), but there is no perfection, anywhere.