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> simple... they call me first. This… seems a bit naive to think your parents will call you first every single time they want to do something special with thei

> simple... they call me first. This… seems a bit naive to think your parents will call you first every single time they want to do something special with their computer. It makes me think of parents that assume their teenagers aren't doing anything stupid because they are confident the kids are sharing everything with them. Anectode: My in-laws are renting their property through Internet. They occasionally receive calls by interested renters and they successfully manage it by themselves. They are almost in their 70's. One day someone had a payment issue and asked to pay them differently, asking for account information so they could send the money directly. They managed to trick them into putting their card number on a fake website displaying the agreed-upon amount. They lost about 100€, the bank couldn't revert the transaction for some reason. Parents only call you when they are unsure of something. The problem is when the scammer manage to convince them everything is normal, which is exactly what they are good at.

thrownaway954 7y ago
if you think it's naive for your users or loved ones to call you when they have the slightness doubt about something, then perhaps the problem is with how they feel treated or the way you present yourself to them when need help? are you welcoming to their questions or do you act annoyed with them?
- JangoSteve 7y ago
  > Parents only call you when they are unsure of something. The problem is when the scammer manage to convince them everything is normal, which is exactly what they are good at. > if you think it's naive for your users or loved ones to call you when they have the slightness doubt about something... I think you just affirmed their point. You're acknowledging they only call when they have even the slightest doubt. They're saying that is exactly the problem, because they won't call when they have no doubt that everything is normal.
BrandoElFollito 7y ago
Since your mention euros: I am sure you know that cc transactions are protected in the EU and that you cannot be held accountable above 200 or 250€ (don't remember, this changed recently) when the transaction is fraudulent. I know you said 100€, but I do not belive a bank will make the claim. I was in that situation twice, the first time they did not even mention it, and the other time they did mention it. When I asked "and so what" they said that they just informed me of that but they they will, of course, not make the claim.

thrownaway954 7y ago

if you think it's naive for your users or loved ones to call you when they have the slightness doubt about something, then perhaps the problem is with how they feel treated or the way you present yourself to them when need help? are you welcoming to their questions or do you act annoyed with them?

JangoSteve 7y ago
> Parents only call you when they are unsure of something. The problem is when the scammer manage to convince them everything is normal, which is exactly what they are good at. > if you think it's naive for your users or loved ones to call you when they have the slightness doubt about something... I think you just affirmed their point. You're acknowledging they only call when they have even the slightest doubt. They're saying that is exactly the problem, because they won't call when they have no doubt that everything is normal.

BrandoElFollito 7y ago

Since your mention euros: I am sure you know that cc transactions are protected in the EU and that you cannot be held accountable above 200 or 250€ (don't remember, this changed recently) when the transaction is fraudulent. I know you said 100€, but I do not belive a bank will make the claim. I was in that situation twice, the first time they did not even mention it, and the other time they did mention it. When I asked "and so what" they said that they just informed me of that but they they will, of course, not make the claim.