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I’m somewhat involved in the automotive industry, and a lot of insiders consider what happened to Ghosn as being a coup by Japanese executives who detested him

I’m somewhat involved in the automotive industry, and a lot of insiders consider what happened to Ghosn as being a coup by Japanese executives who detested him being an outsider. If this is the case, they really did him dirty and I support him fleeing the country.

dynamite-ready 7y ago
The whole 'gaijin' side-story is hard to ignore, given all that's written in the western press about Japan, and it's attitude towards migrants. But there's surely no smoke without fire in a case like this, because it should be fairly easy to prove some degree of innocence in crimes of this nature. It has been interesting to gain a little insight into how pernicious the Japanese judiciary can be though. The story of the artist Megumi Igarashi is especially funny (yet also disturbingly sexist)... Ghosn though, is far from funny. But fleeing the country is a pretty sketchy response to a criminal charge.
- DebtDeflation 7y ago
  >But fleeing the country is a pretty sketchy response to a criminal charge. He was facing a 20 year prison sentence in a country with a 99.7% conviction rate. The trial was to take place later this year. He's 65 years old. I have no idea whether he's guilty of the charges but the reality of the situation he faced was that his only two choices were flee now or likely spend the rest of his life in prison.
- SimbaOnSteroids 7y ago
  Japanese conviction rates exceed 99%, he's 65 years old and facing 20 years. It's not really that surprising he fled, I have a hard time believing that any of us in a similar circumstance and with similar means wouldn't do the same. He was faced with an A | B choice. A: Stay and die in prison. B: Flee and maybe not get caught for a hot minute, eventually get caught, die in prison.
PunchTornado 7y ago
yeah, right, poor rich man. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlos_Ghosn#Arrest_in_Tokyo_and_subsequent_Nissan_investigation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlos_Ghosn#Arrest_in_Tokyo_a... > In September, in one of the first legal accords of the saga, Ghosn settled with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission over claims of failing to disclose more than $140 million in pay to him from Nissan. He was fined $1 million while Nissan was fined $15 million and Greg Kelly $100,000. He is barred from serving as a director or officer of a public company for ten years and Kelly for five years Even in the US he was caught. He used company funds for himself. It's pretty clear. If an average man would have done that he would have been paying it already, but he is a rich man so he could escape.

dynamite-ready 7y ago

The whole 'gaijin' side-story is hard to ignore, given all that's written in the western press about Japan, and it's attitude towards migrants. But there's surely no smoke without fire in a case like this, because it should be fairly easy to prove some degree of innocence in crimes of this nature. It has been interesting to gain a little insight into how pernicious the Japanese judiciary can be though. The story of the artist Megumi Igarashi is especially funny (yet also disturbingly sexist)... Ghosn though, is far from funny. But fleeing the country is a pretty sketchy response to a criminal charge.

DebtDeflation 7y ago
>But fleeing the country is a pretty sketchy response to a criminal charge. He was facing a 20 year prison sentence in a country with a 99.7% conviction rate. The trial was to take place later this year. He's 65 years old. I have no idea whether he's guilty of the charges but the reality of the situation he faced was that his only two choices were flee now or likely spend the rest of his life in prison.
SimbaOnSteroids 7y ago
Japanese conviction rates exceed 99%, he's 65 years old and facing 20 years. It's not really that surprising he fled, I have a hard time believing that any of us in a similar circumstance and with similar means wouldn't do the same. He was faced with an A | B choice. A: Stay and die in prison. B: Flee and maybe not get caught for a hot minute, eventually get caught, die in prison.

PunchTornado 7y ago

yeah, right, poor rich man. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlos_Ghosn#Arrest_in_Tokyo_and_subsequent_Nissan_investigation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlos_Ghosn#Arrest_in_Tokyo_a... > In September, in one of the first legal accords of the saga, Ghosn settled with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission over claims of failing to disclose more than $140 million in pay to him from Nissan. He was fined $1 million while Nissan was fined $15 million and Greg Kelly $100,000. He is barred from serving as a director or officer of a public company for ten years and Kelly for five years Even in the US he was caught. He used company funds for himself. It's pretty clear. If an average man would have done that he would have been paying it already, but he is a rich man so he could escape.