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Give them a chromebook. No virus scanner or firewall needed. It's 2020 and the "Personal Computer" paradigm is past its expiration date. Want to keep hobbying

Give them a chromebook. No virus scanner or firewall needed. It's 2020 and the "Personal Computer" paradigm is past its expiration date. Want to keep hobbying with Windows and manage your "PC" like a pet, good luck with that! Hardware should be managed like cattle with a cloud native setup if you ask me. Racehorse owners loose 90 cent on every dollar invested, cowboys fly helicopters.

teekert 7y ago
I tell this to my in-laws as well, but they don't seem to understand the difference between hackers and privacy invaders. Yes, Apple and Google want to know you, but, in general they know they security stuff and won't try to fool you with it. But they think it's about the same as giving data to hackers that want to scam them. He thinks for example that using a Gmail address as an apple account makes it magically so that both companies now know everything about you. I have a hard time explaining the difference between security/data-protection and hacking. In a way I understand them. Google wanting to track you is nefarious but still, the security from viruses/hackers/cryptolocking viruses is unmatched for a Chromebook or an iPad. My own father wants privacy, has has Apple products, he doesn't want (i/any)Cloud, I buy him a Synology NAS saying the data is his, then Photos libraries go corrupt because the NAS does not have APFS attributes (damn thing works for months until it doesn't). What a nightmare. And I'm explaining all this to a man that doesn't really understand where his Browser ends and the internet starts. So he will wonder if his data is on his Macbook because he can see it in the browser logged into the Synolgy. And then he won't close the browser because the Synology is backing up... It's pretty complex if you think about it. I can understand all the distrust.
- lowdose 7y ago
  But if they already own an iPad maybe this metaphor can make it more easy to explain. Chrome OS on a chromebook is like iOS, Windows / MacOS functions like Android. For me this has kept the discussion simple and people already on iOS understand the difference in flavor immediately.
teekert 7y ago
Some people like it if their data is theirs and not on some server being used for personal advertisements.
- lowdose 7y ago
  For the sake of nuance, in 2019 "tech" has been in unfair bad spotlight while it has been a blessing for society. We literally have magical powers at our fingertips. People however do not want to spend money on the software that makes this possible, period. We still have companies like Coke that sell sugar water and propel a tsunami of obesitas at scale with an advertisement budget that only recently is surpassed by Google's annual profit. There is advertisement and advertisement, helping every business with tools to sell more products and services is moving us forward. Google's Chrome OS offering is a clear business contract which has a paid option. It is up to you if you want to keep using it for free. I hope more of "us" can convince more people to start paying for software services like GSuite and Chrome OS. And Apple's iCloud runs on Google's Cloud Spanner. So it's the same "server" anyway.
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teekert 7y ago

I tell this to my in-laws as well, but they don't seem to understand the difference between hackers and privacy invaders. Yes, Apple and Google want to know you, but, in general they know they security stuff and won't try to fool you with it. But they think it's about the same as giving data to hackers that want to scam them. He thinks for example that using a Gmail address as an apple account makes it magically so that both companies now know everything about you. I have a hard time explaining the difference between security/data-protection and hacking. In a way I understand them. Google wanting to track you is nefarious but still, the security from viruses/hackers/cryptolocking viruses is unmatched for a Chromebook or an iPad. My own father wants privacy, has has Apple products, he doesn't want (i/any)Cloud, I buy him a Synology NAS saying the data is his, then Photos libraries go corrupt because the NAS does not have APFS attributes (damn thing works for months until it doesn't). What a nightmare. And I'm explaining all this to a man that doesn't really understand where his Browser ends and the internet starts. So he will wonder if his data is on his Macbook because he can see it in the browser logged into the Synolgy. And then he won't close the browser because the Synology is backing up... It's pretty complex if you think about it. I can understand all the distrust.

lowdose 7y ago
But if they already own an iPad maybe this metaphor can make it more easy to explain. Chrome OS on a chromebook is like iOS, Windows / MacOS functions like Android. For me this has kept the discussion simple and people already on iOS understand the difference in flavor immediately.

teekert 7y ago

Some people like it if their data is theirs and not on some server being used for personal advertisements.

lowdose 7y ago
For the sake of nuance, in 2019 "tech" has been in unfair bad spotlight while it has been a blessing for society. We literally have magical powers at our fingertips. People however do not want to spend money on the software that makes this possible, period. We still have companies like Coke that sell sugar water and propel a tsunami of obesitas at scale with an advertisement budget that only recently is surpassed by Google's annual profit. There is advertisement and advertisement, helping every business with tools to sell more products and services is moving us forward. Google's Chrome OS offering is a clear business contract which has a paid option. It is up to you if you want to keep using it for free. I hope more of "us" can convince more people to start paying for software services like GSuite and Chrome OS. And Apple's iCloud runs on Google's Cloud Spanner. So it's the same "server" anyway.

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