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> The only tangible evolution of signal in the past year has been new cat and dog stickers that no one asked for. Oh come on, that's just not true (and I don't
by lorenzhs 7y ago
> The only tangible evolution of signal in the past year has been new cat and dog stickers that no one asked for.
Oh come on, that's just not true (and I don't mean by that that the most common complaint in every thread about Signal was that lack of sticker support was hindering people's efforts of getting their friends to use Signal, although that is also true). Things the Signal team worked on in the past year include group management without revealing information about the group (including its existence) to the server (https://signal.org/blog/signal-private-group-system/ https://signal.org/blog/signal-private-group-system/) and secure value recovery (https://signal.org/blog/secure-value-recovery/ https://signal.org/blog/secure-value-recovery/), which lays the groundwork for abandoning phone numbers as identifiers and secure cloud backups of messaging history. Just because these haven't been rolled out yet doesn't mean nothing is happening. Signal also added iPad support in the past year, which is something many people have wished for for a long time.
A little bit further back, Sealed Sender (https://signal.org/blog/sealed-sender/ https://signal.org/blog/sealed-sender/) means that the server no longer needs to know who is sending a message (previously, it did to prevent spoofing and for rate limiting and abuse protection). Private contact discovery (https://signal.org/blog/private-contact-discovery/ https://signal.org/blog/private-contact-discovery/) allows matching of address books without revealing them to the server.
Until quite recently, there were fewer than a handful of people working on Signal, but with the funding they have now, they've ramped up hiring and have started working on features like the above. It just takes some time.
Also, Signal works without Google Play Services installed.
- rapsey 7y agoIf they were security and privacy first they would not implement groups the way they did originally.
- tialaramex 7y agoMmm? The existing groups were secure and private, but lacked some useful functionality. That's exactly what I'd expect to get implemented with "security and privacy first" as priority. For example Signal didn't have a way for a group to boot out a member against their will. If you didn't want to be in a group with Mary any more, and she wouldn't voluntarily leave, you would all need to go form a new group. Signal's servers can't know who is in a group (privacy) so it took a bunch more heavy lifting to develop this feature. Surely the other way around to do this would indeed not be putting "security and privacy first" ?
- rapsey 7y agohttps://www.helpnetsecurity.com/2018/01/11/whatsapp-signal-group-chats/ https://www.helpnetsecurity.com/2018/01/11/whatsapp-signal-g...
- ixwt 7y ago> For example Signal didn't have a way for a group to boot out a member against their will. This article says just as much. Sure, you could brute force a 128 bit key to get into a random group. And if you were kicked out of a group, you could re-add yourself if you had saved the group key. But even the article says it's not super likely.