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I too am alarmed by these spooky disinformation campaigns. I just googled "what party was abraham lincoln in" and a big box popped up at the top saying "Nation

I too am alarmed by these spooky disinformation campaigns. I just googled "what party was abraham lincoln in" and a big box popped up at the top saying "National Union Party". I've never even heard of this party. I assume its a euphemism sinister people use like "Democratic People's Republic".

mikeyouse 7y ago
Is this sarcasm? Lincoln was in the National Union Party during the civil war since he wanted to keep the Union together. It was a temporary 'rebranding' of the Republican party for the Presidential Election to attract members who wouldn't take the Republican name but were sympathetic to the Union. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Union_Party_(United_States) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Union_Party_(United_S...
- 1000units 7y ago
  Oh My God-- he was a Republican? Excuse me, I have to sit down.
  - tejtm 7y ago
    all semantics drift
    - 1000units 7y ago
      It's literally the same party. Policy has evolved for this dramatically different world, but its ideological foundations are still closer to its heritage than any real alternative.
- ailideex 7y ago
  He was elected initially as a republican and was a republican for much longer than he was in the "National Union Party" - I think the result from google is clearly deceptive.
  - 1000units 7y ago
    Yes, I found it very deceptive as well. I have no idea why you're being downvoted.
  - mikeyouse 7y ago
    Are people honestly insinuating that Google's algorithm is hiding the party of Abe Lincoln as some sort of slight against modern Republicans? What in the world... how could anyone believe that? Is that bizarre conspiracy theory more likely or that their search results scrape Wikipedia and return the most recent party a politician belonged to? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham_Lincoln https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham_Lincoln Lo and behold, it reports that Strom Thurmond was a Republican (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strom_Thurmond https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strom_Thurmond) and Jeff Van Drew is too (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Van_Drew https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Van_Drew), even though both were Democrats for substantial periods in the past.
    - Mirioron 7y ago
      Is it a persecution complex when many of these kinds of "technical errors" seem to so often befall people from one political persuasion? Some of them clearly weren't errors and that has happened enough that people stop believing that it's just an error, because these companies have demonstrated in the past that they don't mind doing moves such as that.
      - notahacker 7y ago
        Yes. The fact that the OP had never heard of the National Union Party and jumped immediately to the conclusion that is was a 'euphemism sinister people use' rather than spend 30 seconds confirming that this was in fact the name of the party he represented as President at the time of his death is ample evidence of a persecution complex. Propensity to assume one's own ignorance of facts is evidence of malfeasance on the part of one's opponents is pretty much the definition of persecution complex.
        7y ago
jogjayr 7y ago
Upon expanding the answer, this is the explanation I saw. "The National Union Party was the temporary name used by the Republican Party for the national ticket in the 1864 presidential election that was held during the Civil War." Since Lincoln's final election victory as President was under their ticket, it's not a crazy answer to give. It's not the answer one expects (I had never heard of it until now) but it seems to be technically correct. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Union_Party_(United_States) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Union_Party_(United_S...
- 1000units 7y ago
  Yes, the perfect lie, "technically correct".
  - jogjayr 7y ago
    What makes it a lie? Even Lincoln's Wikipedia page notes that that was his party in his final election. It was a separate party, as noted in the Wikipedia article for it: "The National Union Party was created prior to the General Election of November 1864, when the Civil War was still in progress." BTW as someone who enjoys history, especially American history, thanks for pointing this out. It's an interesting bit of trivia.
    - 1000units 7y ago
      I once had sex with a married woman. When her husband found out she had met up with me, she assured him that she "didn't even kiss" me, which was true (I refused this particular intimacy but enjoyed many others). Was she lying to him? If not, why did he become so viciously angry when I told him what had happened plainly?
belorn 7y ago
Wikipedia: Abraham Lincoln started out as a Whig Party leader in 1834. He left politics in 1849, and reentered it in 1854 as leader for the newly rename republican party created the same year. In 1864 during the civil war both republicans and democrats had internal conflicts about leadership and the war. In order to create a majority, those republicans loyal to Lincoln decided to create a new party name in order to form a collation with pro-war democrats. The new party name got called the National Union Party. Lincoln died the next tear in 1865. The next year after, in 1866, the new National Union Party leader failed to maintain the coalition and Republican members left, with the remaining democrats leaving short after. "what party was abraham lincoln in" is thus a question about time. He was party leader under three different party names, president under two, and leader of one coalition that spanned between two parties. He spent 15 years as a Whig, 10 years under the republican name and 1 year under the coalition which is the point of his death.
- 1000units 7y ago
  He spent only 2 years as a Whig before exiting politics. He returned as a Republican until his assassination over a decade later. (Granted, by sleight of hand he did change the name of his Republican party for a year. Perhaps the trickery of his contemporary enemies here is payback for these tactics.)
o-__-o 7y ago
Its now Republican Party

mikeyouse 7y ago

Is this sarcasm? Lincoln was in the National Union Party during the civil war since he wanted to keep the Union together. It was a temporary 'rebranding' of the Republican party for the Presidential Election to attract members who wouldn't take the Republican name but were sympathetic to the Union. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Union_Party_(United_States) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Union_Party_(United_S...

1000units 7y ago
Oh My God-- he was a Republican? Excuse me, I have to sit down.
- tejtm 7y ago
  all semantics drift
  - 1000units 7y ago
    It's literally the same party. Policy has evolved for this dramatically different world, but its ideological foundations are still closer to its heritage than any real alternative.
ailideex 7y ago
He was elected initially as a republican and was a republican for much longer than he was in the "National Union Party" - I think the result from google is clearly deceptive.
- 1000units 7y ago
  Yes, I found it very deceptive as well. I have no idea why you're being downvoted.
- mikeyouse 7y ago
  Are people honestly insinuating that Google's algorithm is hiding the party of Abe Lincoln as some sort of slight against modern Republicans? What in the world... how could anyone believe that? Is that bizarre conspiracy theory more likely or that their search results scrape Wikipedia and return the most recent party a politician belonged to? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham_Lincoln https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham_Lincoln Lo and behold, it reports that Strom Thurmond was a Republican (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strom_Thurmond https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strom_Thurmond) and Jeff Van Drew is too (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Van_Drew https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Van_Drew), even though both were Democrats for substantial periods in the past.
  - Mirioron 7y ago
    Is it a persecution complex when many of these kinds of "technical errors" seem to so often befall people from one political persuasion? Some of them clearly weren't errors and that has happened enough that people stop believing that it's just an error, because these companies have demonstrated in the past that they don't mind doing moves such as that.
    - notahacker 7y ago
      Yes. The fact that the OP had never heard of the National Union Party and jumped immediately to the conclusion that is was a 'euphemism sinister people use' rather than spend 30 seconds confirming that this was in fact the name of the party he represented as President at the time of his death is ample evidence of a persecution complex. Propensity to assume one's own ignorance of facts is evidence of malfeasance on the part of one's opponents is pretty much the definition of persecution complex.
      - 7y ago

jogjayr 7y ago

Upon expanding the answer, this is the explanation I saw. "The National Union Party was the temporary name used by the Republican Party for the national ticket in the 1864 presidential election that was held during the Civil War." Since Lincoln's final election victory as President was under their ticket, it's not a crazy answer to give. It's not the answer one expects (I had never heard of it until now) but it seems to be technically correct. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Union_Party_(United_States) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Union_Party_(United_S...

1000units 7y ago
Yes, the perfect lie, "technically correct".
- jogjayr 7y ago
  What makes it a lie? Even Lincoln's Wikipedia page notes that that was his party in his final election. It was a separate party, as noted in the Wikipedia article for it: "The National Union Party was created prior to the General Election of November 1864, when the Civil War was still in progress." BTW as someone who enjoys history, especially American history, thanks for pointing this out. It's an interesting bit of trivia.
  - 1000units 7y ago
    I once had sex with a married woman. When her husband found out she had met up with me, she assured him that she "didn't even kiss" me, which was true (I refused this particular intimacy but enjoyed many others). Was she lying to him? If not, why did he become so viciously angry when I told him what had happened plainly?

belorn 7y ago

Wikipedia: Abraham Lincoln started out as a Whig Party leader in 1834. He left politics in 1849, and reentered it in 1854 as leader for the newly rename republican party created the same year. In 1864 during the civil war both republicans and democrats had internal conflicts about leadership and the war. In order to create a majority, those republicans loyal to Lincoln decided to create a new party name in order to form a collation with pro-war democrats. The new party name got called the National Union Party. Lincoln died the next tear in 1865. The next year after, in 1866, the new National Union Party leader failed to maintain the coalition and Republican members left, with the remaining democrats leaving short after. "what party was abraham lincoln in" is thus a question about time. He was party leader under three different party names, president under two, and leader of one coalition that spanned between two parties. He spent 15 years as a Whig, 10 years under the republican name and 1 year under the coalition which is the point of his death.

1000units 7y ago
He spent only 2 years as a Whig before exiting politics. He returned as a Republican until his assassination over a decade later. (Granted, by sleight of hand he did change the name of his Republican party for a year. Perhaps the trickery of his contemporary enemies here is payback for these tactics.)

o-__-o 7y ago

Its now Republican Party