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>>People hiring would much rather roll the dice on a PFY that doesn't have a clue but has a lot of enthusiasm, and will work for peanuts. This is quite funny.

by berntb 16y ago

>>People hiring would much rather roll the dice on a PFY that doesn't have a clue but has a lot of enthusiasm, and will work for peanuts. This is quite funny. I just got outsourced. I went along with the move mostly to see something different. I heard yesterday that the boss laughed and said that he got me for "paying peanuts"! :-) (The good part is that I won't have less money after taxes, rent, food etc. And I'll have better weather and life.) And yes, I'm the wrong side of 40. Edit: Made clearer, sigh.

rapind 16y ago
I think it's fascinating when someone physically gets outsourced themselves instead of replaced by an outsourcer. Where did you go?
- berntb 16y ago
  Cluj, Transylvania (Romania). Please, no vampire jokes. :-) I haven't had time to travel around and see the mountains and everything else, but it is really fun being here. Except all the smoking. Food is good, people are nice. The standard coffee is espresso. Etc.
  - rapind 16y ago
    Interesting. Is it much cheaper? Was it your idea to outsource yourself or was it your boss's? Did you choose Transylvania yourself? ;) Would love to pick your brain if you want to flip me an email: dave at rapin dot com
    - berntb 16y ago
      I've only been there for a few weeks, but so far most things are at least as good as in Scandinavia -- for me, that is. I was scared when I realized how low the median salaries are. (100-200 Euro is not unusual, as I understood it.) Hungry and/or desperate people are scary. I believe many of the locals have family in the countryside and get food directly in that way. Is it cheaper? For 600 Euro/month you get an apartment with 100+ square meters and glassed in balcony, etc. (I got something smaller.) A good lunch is typically 3-4 Euro. Many good restaurants (not oriented for West Europeans) takes 10 Euro for a nice dinner. And so on. Cluj is a university city of about 400,000 people with tech businesses. It is really good it isn't too large. It will be fascinating to see everything about mountains -- and to learn about culture etc (this is the first time I've worked outside Scandinavia, this is an adventure to me!). Everything will probably change fast, since Romania joined the EU a few years back. It was the company where I was a consultant which outsourced a large part of the work. I got a choice -- and it was quite easy to make the decision, since I'll probably not get the chance again. It is fun to see interest. Maybe I should start a blog and write about stuff, in addition to Facebook (to get friends come visit).

by berntb 16y ago

rapind 16y ago

I think it's fascinating when someone physically gets outsourced themselves instead of replaced by an outsourcer. Where did you go?

berntb 16y ago
Cluj, Transylvania (Romania). Please, no vampire jokes. :-) I haven't had time to travel around and see the mountains and everything else, but it is really fun being here. Except all the smoking. Food is good, people are nice. The standard coffee is espresso. Etc.
- rapind 16y ago
  Interesting. Is it much cheaper? Was it your idea to outsource yourself or was it your boss's? Did you choose Transylvania yourself? ;) Would love to pick your brain if you want to flip me an email: dave at rapin dot com
  - berntb 16y ago
    I've only been there for a few weeks, but so far most things are at least as good as in Scandinavia -- for me, that is. I was scared when I realized how low the median salaries are. (100-200 Euro is not unusual, as I understood it.) Hungry and/or desperate people are scary. I believe many of the locals have family in the countryside and get food directly in that way. Is it cheaper? For 600 Euro/month you get an apartment with 100+ square meters and glassed in balcony, etc. (I got something smaller.) A good lunch is typically 3-4 Euro. Many good restaurants (not oriented for West Europeans) takes 10 Euro for a nice dinner. And so on. Cluj is a university city of about 400,000 people with tech businesses. It is really good it isn't too large. It will be fascinating to see everything about mountains -- and to learn about culture etc (this is the first time I've worked outside Scandinavia, this is an adventure to me!). Everything will probably change fast, since Romania joined the EU a few years back. It was the company where I was a consultant which outsourced a large part of the work. I got a choice -- and it was quite easy to make the decision, since I'll probably not get the chance again. It is fun to see interest. Maybe I should start a blog and write about stuff, in addition to Facebook (to get friends come visit).