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Yes both appear to be a disaster. Vuejs is a bit better imo but i'm generally holding out for the next thing.

• cutler 7y ago
  ... which is https://svelte.dev https://svelte.dev
  • zbentley 7y ago
    It might be the next big thing, but Svelte doesn't solve the problem outlined in the root of this subthread: nobody has any idea what the fuck is going on. I like Svelte, the simplicity of programming in it is great, and it has several advantages compared to React. But I have no idea how it works, past a point of complexity. Like, yes: I can run the compiler and check out the JS it generates, same as I can do in React. For simple components, sometimes the compiled code even makes sense. But when I introduce repeated state mutations or components that reference each other, I no longer know what's going on at all, and I don't think I'm alone in this. Svelte might be an improvement in ergonomics (and that's a good and much needed thing!) but it does nothing to answer the obscurity/too-far-up-the-abstraction-stack-itis that GP mentioned. The whole point of that is frameworks/abstraction layers that tell you "you don't need to understand what's going on below here" are . . . maybe not lying, exactly, but also not telling the whole truth about the costs of operating at that level of both tooling abstraction and developer comprehension.
  • JMTQp8lwXL 7y ago
    More likely to be web components. Then you can use your web components in Svelte, React, Angular, Vue, etc projects.