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GIMP changing its name seems pointless at this point, especially because of where the conversations there led. It would have been smarter for them to argue that

by kick 7y ago

GIMP changing its name seems pointless at this point, especially because of where the conversations there led. It would have been smarter for them to argue that "gimp" is a sexual term, and therefore gross, rather than an antiquated ableist term, because the former is more common than the latter usage (which is never used). Reiser's accomplishments are already out there, there's no need to continue with his name on something he hasn't contributed a patch to in a decade, and there's literally no harm in changing the name of a program like this; it's not a binary decision between "remember the person" and "use their work," plenty of people have their work utilized despite no one knowing their name. I think that's fine.

hakfoo 7y ago
I think the "antiquated ableist" form is used for GIMP, but more as a verb than a noun. "FooCorp will gimp the 700LC with a 30-watt power limit, ensuring it won't compete with the full-performance 700.".
shiftless 7y ago
> 'Reiser's accomplishments are already out there, there's no need to continue with his name on something he hasn't contributed a patch to in a decade' He's been in prison. I doubt kernel driver writing is encouraged there. > 'there's literally no harm in changing the name of a program like this; it's not a binary decision between "remember the person" and "use their work,"' You are literally incorrect in saying there is literally no harm. The harm is this: you're engaging in the "Two Minutes Hate." I don't want to live in the kind of corrupt society that rushes out to scrub a person's name from the history books just because a skeleton is (literally) discovered in their closet. Removing Hans Reiser's name from his creation would be equally immoral to putting him to death--because among other reasons, you cannot guarantee that he is guilty with 100% certainty. I think that the name should stand, so that the community can collectively enjoy the constant whining and bitching from all corners every time the subject comes up, rather than anyone having a technical discussion about boring things like the filesystem's merits.

by kick 7y ago

hakfoo 7y ago

I think the "antiquated ableist" form is used for GIMP, but more as a verb than a noun. "FooCorp will gimp the 700LC with a 30-watt power limit, ensuring it won't compete with the full-performance 700.".

shiftless 7y ago

> 'Reiser's accomplishments are already out there, there's no need to continue with his name on something he hasn't contributed a patch to in a decade' He's been in prison. I doubt kernel driver writing is encouraged there. > 'there's literally no harm in changing the name of a program like this; it's not a binary decision between "remember the person" and "use their work,"' You are literally incorrect in saying there is literally no harm. The harm is this: you're engaging in the "Two Minutes Hate." I don't want to live in the kind of corrupt society that rushes out to scrub a person's name from the history books just because a skeleton is (literally) discovered in their closet. Removing Hans Reiser's name from his creation would be equally immoral to putting him to death--because among other reasons, you cannot guarantee that he is guilty with 100% certainty. I think that the name should stand, so that the community can collectively enjoy the constant whining and bitching from all corners every time the subject comes up, rather than anyone having a technical discussion about boring things like the filesystem's merits.