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Respecting your elders was much more prevalent.

drewrv 7y ago
Respecting your abusers was much more prevalent.
kick 7y ago
If the only way for the old to gain "respect" (read: fear) is by hitting children barely old enough to be in school, maybe they don't deserve it.
- frankharv 7y ago
  We certainly did not need to have Police permanently stationed in the school. That alone makes the point. Our society is much more violent than in the past. It starts at childhood age. Lack of discipline leads to anarchy.
  - learc83 7y ago
    >Our society is much more violent than in the past. No it's not. Look up the statistics. >We certainly did not need to have Police permanently stationed in the school. Most other developed countries don't either. There's no correlation with corporal punishment in schools and school shootings.
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  - thrwaway69 7y ago
    Citation? Maybe Americans are doing something wrong but educational reforms and less abuse of kids in other places have shown positive effects. Not to mention, crimes rates are slowing down in those areas with more development.
  - kick 7y ago
    https://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/press-releases/fbi-releases-2018-crime-statistics https://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/press-releases/fbi-release...
learc83 7y ago
Do you have data to back that up? Has the crime rate against the elderly increased? Or does it just feel like it was better? My parents think it's much more dangerous for kids to play outside now than back when I was a kid in the 80s. Despite the fact that the crime rate is much lower.
jimmyswimmy 7y ago
I'm not sure that was the effect. The kids may have responded in the desired fashion after being struck by a ruler, but I bet they hardened their minds against that teacher. My parents hated the nuns who ran their schools like this and took every chance they got to undermine them, because of the ruler business. Using size and power to rule children earns fear, not respect, and I think there are a lot of studies to back that up.

Respecting your abusers was much more prevalent.

kick 7y ago

If the only way for the old to gain "respect" (read: fear) is by hitting children barely old enough to be in school, maybe they don't deserve it.

frankharv 7y ago
We certainly did not need to have Police permanently stationed in the school. That alone makes the point. Our society is much more violent than in the past. It starts at childhood age. Lack of discipline leads to anarchy.
- learc83 7y ago
  >Our society is much more violent than in the past. No it's not. Look up the statistics. >We certainly did not need to have Police permanently stationed in the school. Most other developed countries don't either. There's no correlation with corporal punishment in schools and school shootings.
- deleted 7y ago
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- thrwaway69 7y ago
  Citation? Maybe Americans are doing something wrong but educational reforms and less abuse of kids in other places have shown positive effects. Not to mention, crimes rates are slowing down in those areas with more development.
- kick 7y ago
  https://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/press-releases/fbi-releases-2018-crime-statistics https://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/press-releases/fbi-release...

learc83 7y ago

Do you have data to back that up? Has the crime rate against the elderly increased? Or does it just feel like it was better? My parents think it's much more dangerous for kids to play outside now than back when I was a kid in the 80s. Despite the fact that the crime rate is much lower.

jimmyswimmy 7y ago

I'm not sure that was the effect. The kids may have responded in the desired fashion after being struck by a ruler, but I bet they hardened their minds against that teacher. My parents hated the nuns who ran their schools like this and took every chance they got to undermine them, because of the ruler business. Using size and power to rule children earns fear, not respect, and I think there are a lot of studies to back that up.