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RE: The most part of diseases of this decade are caused by plant based diets Do you have any studies that back up your claim that humans need meat to live a h

RE: The most part of diseases of this decade are caused by plant based diets Do you have any studies that back up your claim that humans need meat to live a healthy life? Several governmental bodies worldwide state[1] that one can live healthy using a plant based diet and The Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine[0] even recommend a plant based diet for good health and disease prevention. Did you know B12 is produced by bacteria and that some meat eaters are low in B12 and need to supplement. Animals in factory farms are being fed B12 supplements[2]. You might want to research this further so you're better informed next time you state information as fact. Or watch this documentary - https://gamechangersmovie.com/- https://gamechangersmovie.com/- it's on Netflix. [0] https://www.pcrm.org/good-nutrition https://www.pcrm.org/good-nutrition [1] https://www.nhs.uk/live-well/eat-well/the-vegan-diet/ https://www.nhs.uk/live-well/eat-well/the-vegan-diet/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK396513/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK396513/ [2] https://baltimorepostexaminer.com/carnivores-need-vitamin-b12-supplements/2013/10/30 https://baltimorepostexaminer.com/carnivores-need-vitamin-b1...

chukye 7y ago
PLEASE, don't do this to yourself dude. Industry are shitting all over you. Just see a picture of James Cameron now, the guy looks a zombie!! ALSO, if you want real evidence, read the articles YOU pointed. You'll see there IS NO CONCLUSION THAT PLANTS ARE HEALTHIER. PERIOD. Actually, you need to eat a LOT OF DIFFERENT PLANTS to get a little oz of a meat, go look for yourself. Check the result, how skinny and easy to get sick these people are (IF YOU DON'T EAT THE CORRECT AMONT OF A LOT OF PLANTS + SUPPLEMENTS, EVERY F* HOUR). I know, meat diet will not be here forever because of resources (thanks for some comments here I made more researches), but at the moment is THE HEALTHIER DIET POSSIBLE. No arguments against that, just check evidences and peoples (nowadays are a lot of they). Sorry, I get very angry when I see someone trying to be scientific and tell me to watch gamerchangers.
chukye 7y ago
I'm sorry, here are some articles that supports me when I say that plant-based diet are not good for your health: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1331544/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1331544/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/26493452/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/26493452/ https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0022347605812399 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S00223... https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article/90/4/943/4597049 https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article/90/4/943/4597049 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/15072869/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/15072869/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/30061399/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/30061399/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3466124/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3466124/ I'm not a huge fan of nutrition, so that's why I take too long post these, anyway don't believe me or in any article, test on yourself and tell me. Plant-based diet might be good for environment, but for sure are not good for your health.
- uxcolumbo 7y ago
  Thanks. But none of those articles say that a plant based diet is not good for your health and that you need to eat meat instead. Your last link about mental disorders for example even says there is no evidence that a plant based diet causes mental disorders and it even states "vegetarians are in good physical health". I would recommend to read these articles properly next time and not make generalised statements like you've done. You can live a healthy live without meat or dairy products. We can't feed the whole world using a meat heavy diet as it's just too resource intensive and destructive to the environment. A shift to a more plant based diet is inevitable - that's why I'm thankful to people like Ethan Brown and his team working on meat alternatives that are as good or better than animal meat - to make this transition easier for people who just can't give up animal meat.
chukye 7y ago
btw, please don't do like these guys https://metro.co.uk/2019/11/14/vegan-parents-starved-toddler-to-death-by-forcing-him-to-eat-raw-plant-based-diet-11147678/ https://metro.co.uk/2019/11/14/vegan-parents-starved-toddler... feed your babies with meat, we don't have technology (yet) to eat only plants.
- dang 7y ago
  Please stop. You've made your point and continuing to push it is just going to cause a flamewar.
- uxcolumbo 7y ago
  This is one isolated case of parents who were probably quite dogmatic and ill informed and they were fruitarians - mainly eating raw food, so probably not living on a well-balanced diet. The article even states that a vegan or vegetarian diet is fine for kids[0]. So again please read articles properly next time and don't make generalised statements based one some headlines you read. [0] "Babies and young children on a vegetarian or vegan diet can get the energy and most of the nutrients they need to grow and develop from a well-planned varied and balanced diet."

chukye 7y ago

PLEASE, don't do this to yourself dude. Industry are shitting all over you. Just see a picture of James Cameron now, the guy looks a zombie!! ALSO, if you want real evidence, read the articles YOU pointed. You'll see there IS NO CONCLUSION THAT PLANTS ARE HEALTHIER. PERIOD. Actually, you need to eat a LOT OF DIFFERENT PLANTS to get a little oz of a meat, go look for yourself. Check the result, how skinny and easy to get sick these people are (IF YOU DON'T EAT THE CORRECT AMONT OF A LOT OF PLANTS + SUPPLEMENTS, EVERY F* HOUR). I know, meat diet will not be here forever because of resources (thanks for some comments here I made more researches), but at the moment is THE HEALTHIER DIET POSSIBLE. No arguments against that, just check evidences and peoples (nowadays are a lot of they). Sorry, I get very angry when I see someone trying to be scientific and tell me to watch gamerchangers.

chukye 7y ago

I'm sorry, here are some articles that supports me when I say that plant-based diet are not good for your health: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1331544/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1331544/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/26493452/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/26493452/ https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0022347605812399 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S00223... https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article/90/4/943/4597049 https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article/90/4/943/4597049 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/15072869/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/15072869/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/30061399/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/30061399/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3466124/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3466124/ I'm not a huge fan of nutrition, so that's why I take too long post these, anyway don't believe me or in any article, test on yourself and tell me. Plant-based diet might be good for environment, but for sure are not good for your health.

uxcolumbo 7y ago
Thanks. But none of those articles say that a plant based diet is not good for your health and that you need to eat meat instead. Your last link about mental disorders for example even says there is no evidence that a plant based diet causes mental disorders and it even states "vegetarians are in good physical health". I would recommend to read these articles properly next time and not make generalised statements like you've done. You can live a healthy live without meat or dairy products. We can't feed the whole world using a meat heavy diet as it's just too resource intensive and destructive to the environment. A shift to a more plant based diet is inevitable - that's why I'm thankful to people like Ethan Brown and his team working on meat alternatives that are as good or better than animal meat - to make this transition easier for people who just can't give up animal meat.

chukye 7y ago

btw, please don't do like these guys https://metro.co.uk/2019/11/14/vegan-parents-starved-toddler-to-death-by-forcing-him-to-eat-raw-plant-based-diet-11147678/ https://metro.co.uk/2019/11/14/vegan-parents-starved-toddler... feed your babies with meat, we don't have technology (yet) to eat only plants.

dang 7y ago
Please stop. You've made your point and continuing to push it is just going to cause a flamewar.
uxcolumbo 7y ago
This is one isolated case of parents who were probably quite dogmatic and ill informed and they were fruitarians - mainly eating raw food, so probably not living on a well-balanced diet. The article even states that a vegan or vegetarian diet is fine for kids[0]. So again please read articles properly next time and don't make generalised statements based one some headlines you read. [0] "Babies and young children on a vegetarian or vegan diet can get the energy and most of the nutrients they need to grow and develop from a well-planned varied and balanced diet."