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What's your base for calling him a crank? He literally predicted the issue with China and got no credit for it. I don't see a single argument in your post.

mikeyouse 7y ago
Aside from his many obvious and damaging fabrications that he has since admitted. The crank reputation is the consensus of just about everyone, left or right, in the international trade world. He doesn't even understand the basics of macro, insisting somehow that reducing imports would increase GDP? Noah Smith: https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2016-12-28/trump-s-trade-chief-peter-navarro-makes-a-rookie-mistake https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2016-12-28/trump-... Cato: https://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/navarros-trade-views-misguided-dangerous https://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/navarros-trade-... AEI: https://www.aei.org/carpe-diem/donald-trump-and-peter-navarro-the-most-dangerous-man-in-global-economics-are-suffer-from-trade-deficit-disorder/ https://www.aei.org/carpe-diem/donald-trump-and-peter-navarr... Krugman: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/07/opinion/how-to-lose-a-trade-war.html https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/07/opinion/how-to-lose-a-tra... Kevin Williamson: https://www.nationalreview.com/2017/04/peter-navarro-trump-china-adviser-bad-economics/ https://www.nationalreview.com/2017/04/peter-navarro-trump-c... > I don't see a single argument in your post. I'm not really trying to argue about China policy.. just provide some context to the people being impacted by the trade war any my skepticism of this administration's ability to fix anything. We're two years into the trade war, which we all know are "good and easy to win", so hopefully we get some progress soon.
- ThomPete 7y ago
  So you argument is pointing to someone who disagrees with him? Someone like Krugman who repeatedly have been wrong on almost anything. Why don't you point to something Navaro has been wrong about in the context of this discussion. Despite the trade war, the economy is doing great so it's a little puzzling where you get your certainty about their inability to do this when they've actually proved you wrong.
  - mikeyouse 7y ago
    I did point to something Navarro was wrong about, e.g. his insistence that reducing imports would increase GDP, a mistake that a 1st year econ grad student wouldn't make. But as I've said about 4 times, I'm not trying to argue with you as I'm not an international trade expert, which is why I referred to a bunch of people who are, with my own personal anecdote of this trade war bankrupting a family member's business. Maybe take a less confrontational tone though, it's pretty obnoxious.
    - ThomPete 7y ago
      Sorry but you seem to be the one with the strong language calling people cranks. The point was China though and it's ok if you don't feel you are in a position to talk about that but then you don't really have a base for knowing whether they make sense or not.

mikeyouse 7y ago

Aside from his many obvious and damaging fabrications that he has since admitted. The crank reputation is the consensus of just about everyone, left or right, in the international trade world. He doesn't even understand the basics of macro, insisting somehow that reducing imports would increase GDP? Noah Smith: https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2016-12-28/trump-s-trade-chief-peter-navarro-makes-a-rookie-mistake https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2016-12-28/trump-... Cato: https://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/navarros-trade-views-misguided-dangerous https://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/navarros-trade-... AEI: https://www.aei.org/carpe-diem/donald-trump-and-peter-navarro-the-most-dangerous-man-in-global-economics-are-suffer-from-trade-deficit-disorder/ https://www.aei.org/carpe-diem/donald-trump-and-peter-navarr... Krugman: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/07/opinion/how-to-lose-a-trade-war.html https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/07/opinion/how-to-lose-a-tra... Kevin Williamson: https://www.nationalreview.com/2017/04/peter-navarro-trump-china-adviser-bad-economics/ https://www.nationalreview.com/2017/04/peter-navarro-trump-c... > I don't see a single argument in your post. I'm not really trying to argue about China policy.. just provide some context to the people being impacted by the trade war any my skepticism of this administration's ability to fix anything. We're two years into the trade war, which we all know are "good and easy to win", so hopefully we get some progress soon.

ThomPete 7y ago
So you argument is pointing to someone who disagrees with him? Someone like Krugman who repeatedly have been wrong on almost anything. Why don't you point to something Navaro has been wrong about in the context of this discussion. Despite the trade war, the economy is doing great so it's a little puzzling where you get your certainty about their inability to do this when they've actually proved you wrong.
- mikeyouse 7y ago
  I did point to something Navarro was wrong about, e.g. his insistence that reducing imports would increase GDP, a mistake that a 1st year econ grad student wouldn't make. But as I've said about 4 times, I'm not trying to argue with you as I'm not an international trade expert, which is why I referred to a bunch of people who are, with my own personal anecdote of this trade war bankrupting a family member's business. Maybe take a less confrontational tone though, it's pretty obnoxious.
  - ThomPete 7y ago
    Sorry but you seem to be the one with the strong language calling people cranks. The point was China though and it's ok if you don't feel you are in a position to talk about that but then you don't really have a base for knowing whether they make sense or not.