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Curious which German made Diesel cars costs 20.000 € or less. I get the impression from Germans that EVs are not a good solution to replace diesel. Perhaps ther

Curious which German made Diesel cars costs 20.000 € or less. I get the impression from Germans that EVs are not a good solution to replace diesel. Perhaps there just isn't motivation of the populas behind the techonology. Which could be blamed on the lack of infrastructure to support charging. Also in the United States a lot of people have garages that they can install charging stations in. I wonder what the percentage of Germans who have a private garage is.

gumby 7y ago
Anecdotally I’d say it’s about the same: if you live in a sub urb and have a detached or semi detached home you have a garage; if yuh live in an urban environment you often don’t. I think these factors are the same in both countries.
alacombe 7y ago
Irrelevant of diesel, if you only need a city car, say alike the Citroen C1, you can get a gas car with 600km range for about 12,000EUR. That 1.5x better range for 20% of the price and 25% smaller on top of that. For the same package, the Citroen C0 has about 20% of the range for twice the price.
- petre 7y ago
  They're quite awful cars thpugh. I had a rental C3 Aircross in Portugal, it wouldn't climb a moderately steep hill without pressing the pedal to the metal.
nl 7y ago
The VW Polo turbo diesel has a list price of 15,000€ before discounts.
9HZZRfNlpR 7y ago
Most people in Germany rent, so they even less power to make these decisions. Americans tend to own nice and big houses with a lot of garage space and all the freedom that comes with it.
paganel 7y ago
> Curious which German made Diesel cars costs 20.000 € or less. All the VW Polos. And around the 20,000 euro mark you can get the majority of the VW Golf Diesel models and my personal favorite, the Skoda Octavia (made just across the border, in Czechia). The first and second-generation diesel Octavias were built like tanks, there are many example of them reaching the 1 million km mark, and the latest ones are pretty decent, too.
ThePhysicist 7y ago
If you’re living in the countryside it’s usually not an issue, most people in major cities park their cars on the street though, so for EVs to become viable you would need a much better infrastructure. This will happen but I estimate it will take at least 5 more years.

gumby 7y ago

Anecdotally I’d say it’s about the same: if you live in a sub urb and have a detached or semi detached home you have a garage; if yuh live in an urban environment you often don’t. I think these factors are the same in both countries.

alacombe 7y ago

Irrelevant of diesel, if you only need a city car, say alike the Citroen C1, you can get a gas car with 600km range for about 12,000EUR. That 1.5x better range for 20% of the price and 25% smaller on top of that. For the same package, the Citroen C0 has about 20% of the range for twice the price.

petre 7y ago
They're quite awful cars thpugh. I had a rental C3 Aircross in Portugal, it wouldn't climb a moderately steep hill without pressing the pedal to the metal.

nl 7y ago

The VW Polo turbo diesel has a list price of 15,000€ before discounts.

9HZZRfNlpR 7y ago

Most people in Germany rent, so they even less power to make these decisions. Americans tend to own nice and big houses with a lot of garage space and all the freedom that comes with it.

paganel 7y ago

> Curious which German made Diesel cars costs 20.000 € or less. All the VW Polos. And around the 20,000 euro mark you can get the majority of the VW Golf Diesel models and my personal favorite, the Skoda Octavia (made just across the border, in Czechia). The first and second-generation diesel Octavias were built like tanks, there are many example of them reaching the 1 million km mark, and the latest ones are pretty decent, too.

ThePhysicist 7y ago

If you’re living in the countryside it’s usually not an issue, most people in major cities park their cars on the street though, so for EVs to become viable you would need a much better infrastructure. This will happen but I estimate it will take at least 5 more years.