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Python 2.7 will retire in...

56 points by Ivoah 7y ago

minitech 7y ago
It was moved to April: https://pyfound.blogspot.com/2019/12/python-2-sunset.html https://pyfound.blogspot.com/2019/12/python-2-sunset.html https://www.python.org/psf/press-release/pr20191220/ https://www.python.org/psf/press-release/pr20191220/
- mehrdadn 7y ago
  It seems it wasn't moved; the intention wasn't to make the final release on New Year's, but to have the release occur around PyCon. Rather it seems what they meant was that they'd stop fixing issues (except critical ones/blockers) past new year's.
analog31 7y ago
... And we'll tak a cup o' kindness yet, for auld lang(uage) syne.
rbranson 7y ago
Python 2.7 will be forked in...
- viraptor 7y ago
  If there's legitimate need and enough support, it will be. But I haven't seen any company announcing their fork and services so far. It may not happen on a larger scale.
  - csande17 7y ago
    Red Hat will continue to support Python 2 until 2024: https://access.redhat.com/solutions/4455511 https://access.redhat.com/solutions/4455511
    - usr1106 7y ago
      But Python is not GPL or similarly restrictively licensed, so RH is not obliged to publish the changed code they produce for their paying customers. Whether they will do e. g. via CentOS I have not investigated.
      - jcelerier 7y ago
        to be fair, all the CVEs I see in the last few years are related to urllib (https://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_id-10210/product_id-18230/version_id-92056/year-2019/Python-Python-2.7.html https://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_id-1021...) - there are tons and tons of applications which aren't even using any kind of network communications, does it matter for them that Python gets updated ?
    - viraptor 7y ago
      Ah, yes. I meant a different model. RH does support as in backporting required patches and generally making things not stop. What I thought was implied by a fork was more of a consultancy / paid support like https://railslts.com/ https://railslts.com/
- dogmatism 7y ago
  As I recall the developer of the Calibre e-book application wanted to do this, but has come to his senses.
- stefantalpalaru 7y ago
  > Python 2.7 will be forked in... It already was: https://github.com/naftaliharris/tauthon/ https://github.com/naftaliharris/tauthon/
rs23296008n1 7y ago
Accidently realised I had a lot of code that still worked under 2.7 when I provided the wrong interpreter path. The tests passed with only a few failing. I doubt I'll ever update them to run under 2.7. Ironically I still support some scripts under 1.x for a bunch of industrial systems that aren't networked. It will be nice when July comes along and they all vanish and replaced with the 3.x goodness.
downerending 7y ago
Yawn. I'm still waiting for COBOL to retire.
messmerd 7y ago
Hi Ivoah

56 points by Ivoah 7y ago

It was moved to April: https://pyfound.blogspot.com/2019/12/python-2-sunset.html https://pyfound.blogspot.com/2019/12/python-2-sunset.html https://www.python.org/psf/press-release/pr20191220/ https://www.python.org/psf/press-release/pr20191220/

mehrdadn 7y ago
It seems it wasn't moved; the intention wasn't to make the final release on New Year's, but to have the release occur around PyCon. Rather it seems what they meant was that they'd stop fixing issues (except critical ones/blockers) past new year's.

analog31 7y ago

... And we'll tak a cup o' kindness yet, for auld lang(uage) syne.

rbranson 7y ago

Python 2.7 will be forked in...

viraptor 7y ago
If there's legitimate need and enough support, it will be. But I haven't seen any company announcing their fork and services so far. It may not happen on a larger scale.
- csande17 7y ago
  Red Hat will continue to support Python 2 until 2024: https://access.redhat.com/solutions/4455511 https://access.redhat.com/solutions/4455511
  - usr1106 7y ago
    But Python is not GPL or similarly restrictively licensed, so RH is not obliged to publish the changed code they produce for their paying customers. Whether they will do e. g. via CentOS I have not investigated.
    - jcelerier 7y ago
      to be fair, all the CVEs I see in the last few years are related to urllib (https://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_id-10210/product_id-18230/version_id-92056/year-2019/Python-Python-2.7.html https://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_id-1021...) - there are tons and tons of applications which aren't even using any kind of network communications, does it matter for them that Python gets updated ?
  - viraptor 7y ago
    Ah, yes. I meant a different model. RH does support as in backporting required patches and generally making things not stop. What I thought was implied by a fork was more of a consultancy / paid support like https://railslts.com/ https://railslts.com/
dogmatism 7y ago
As I recall the developer of the Calibre e-book application wanted to do this, but has come to his senses.
stefantalpalaru 7y ago
> Python 2.7 will be forked in... It already was: https://github.com/naftaliharris/tauthon/ https://github.com/naftaliharris/tauthon/

rs23296008n1 7y ago

Accidently realised I had a lot of code that still worked under 2.7 when I provided the wrong interpreter path. The tests passed with only a few failing. I doubt I'll ever update them to run under 2.7. Ironically I still support some scripts under 1.x for a bunch of industrial systems that aren't networked. It will be nice when July comes along and they all vanish and replaced with the 3.x goodness.

downerending 7y ago

Yawn. I'm still waiting for COBOL to retire.

messmerd 7y ago

Hi Ivoah