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It's worth a mention just how buggy win10 has been for me. I don't spend much time working in windows, but every time I do I encounter one issue or another. F
by suby 7y ago
It's worth a mention just how buggy win10 has been for me. I don't spend much time working in windows, but every time I do I encounter one issue or another.
File explorer freezes / crashes.
There is that one empty folder on my desktop that I cannot delete because it is in use, but there is nothing in the folder and no program is conceivably using it.
There are occasional glitches with git. It wouldn't let me clone a git repo somewhere because it said the folder already existed. No such folder existed. Changing the destination name did nothing. Restarting fixed it.
There was a bug which kept rearranging the order of desktop icons, which was actually pretty annoying.
There is a bug that they seem to fix and then break with every other update. Basically, if I go fullscreen with some programs and two monitors set to mirror, the resolution zooms in and it's unusable. This is currently broken in the latest stable release.
Installs from the windows store almost always fail for no obvious reason.
I updated to 1909, or w/e the latest is, hoping that some of the isues I've encountered would be fixed. I've reinstalled the driver and tried fixing it but the USB wifi adapter that I have now no longer works (still works fine in Linux).
I could go on. That is with me going out of my way to not install much at all on the pc, because I know that installing things like tweaks to stop telemetry like the author suggests will lead to even more issues.
Contrast this to the experience I've had with Linux the past few years. It never crashes. Core programs like nemo (file explorer) do not freeze / crash. It updates without issue. I cannot think of a single issue i've had. The computer does exactly what I expect it to do. Stability is vital if you want to be productive.
I'm sure other folks have had the opposite experience. For me though, I am done with Windows.
- mehrdadn 7y ago> File explorer freezes / crashes. It's been happening to me too, but it's unclear to me if it's one of my shell extensions or Windows itself. Do you run any shell extensions? > There are occasional glitches with git. It wouldn't let me clone a git repo somewhere because it said the folder already existed. No such folder existed. Changing the destination name did nothing. Restarting fixed it. That's mind-boggling. Were you using WSL at all, or just vanilla Windows git? WSL can have these types of issues if you try to mess with its file system (I think due to POSIX deletion semantics), but they shouldn't occur on your desktop...
- jcelerier 7y ago> It's been happening to me too, but it's unclear to me if it's one of my shell extensions or Windows itself. Do you run any shell extensions? only shellex here is 7zfm integration and I get occasional explorer.exe crashes. Also I had an install where edge just wouldn't start. At all.
- mehrdadn 7y agoGood to know, thanks for the info! I do have 7-zip too, so I'll try to see if it might be related if it happens again.
- suby 7y agoI don't think I have any shell extensions installed. I did allow git, 7zip, and clion to add themselves to the right click context menu, but I don't think that counts as a shell extension? I do have WSL installed, but only for curiosities sake. I messed around with it for a few hours and have not used it since. I'm using git with the terminal editor that they recommend to you in the git for Windows installation, I think it's called git with bash? It could have been some type of issue there rather than Microsoft being at fault. But that terminal editor is (or at least was) the recommended option presented to you in the git installer, so shrugs
- mehrdadn 7y ago> I did allow git, 7zip, and clion to add themselves to the right click context menu, but I don't think that counts as a shell extension? They do count, but whether or not they're relevant depends on whether they're triggered. e.g. if you never right-clicked, then 7-zip probably doesn't count. Although 7-zip also installs drag-drop handlers, so it's not just right-clicking, and I'm not sure when the others get triggered. > I'm using git with the terminal editor that they recommend to you in the git for Windows installation, I think it's called git with bash? It could have been some type of issue there rather than Microsoft being at fault. But that terminal editor is (or at least was) the recommended option presented to you in the git installer, so shrugs. Hm, somehow I feel neither of them is related. How likely is it that the name wasn't unique after your rename? Did you type in gibberish or something that could plausibly exist? Note that if you were ever trying to remove e.g. a directory that was the current working directory of any running program (like your terminal or anything else), that'd fail. It's possible that there's some bug that makes you think it's succeeding, and therefore making you think that the folder no longer exists. But hard to say with the current info.
- wvenable 7y ago> It's worth a mention just how buggy win10 has been for me. Is it though? I mean I've had none of these problems. You could literally have a bad RAM stick or a misbehaving piece of hardware. For every one of these posts, are hundreds of thousands of people will no problems at all and therefore no reason to make a post.
- suby 7y agoIt could be bad hardware, you are right. I doubt the issue is faulty hardware since the same parts work in Linux, but the ultimate point that it could be something else entirely and not Microsoft's fault is of course true. This is a forum though. We're here to talk and share our experiences and anecdotes. We don't have access to any real statistical data regarding the amount of bugs and issues that people experience with Windows. What we can do is collectively share what we have experienced because we enjoy talking about it, or we want to try and see if things are getting better or worse on average. I think you can get a reasonable view of how buggy / how many issues people are experiencing for a given product by the ratio positive posts / negative posts. I never had problems with Windows in the past. I now have a lot of problems with Windows. Take that however you will.
- wvenable 7y agoI've had problems with Windows in the past and now I don't. Does this information help you in any way? Does it contribute something of value? No. All the anecdotes about stability and usability are mostly just noise masquerading as useful discussion. Even with potentially important issues, like privacy, nothing has changed in the last 2 years. The horse is so beaten to death it's unrecognizable. For those who really care, they've moved on and probably to an OS just as bad, if it wasn't Linux. There's no value to this conversation and even the original article isn't anything new or interesting.
- walshemj 7y agoI wonder exactly what you have done to windows to cause those problems - all these problems people mention here I haven't see any real problems. Where you using the windows git client that plus atom with the right plugins is great The only annoying one is the way Dell messed up its recent sound drivers - sound is one are which Microsoft needs good hard kick up the ass.