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The idea that an "insightful, balanced, and deliberative" discussion should happen implies that the topic is either unfamiliar and requiring exploration, or is
by fatbird 7y ago
The idea that an "insightful, balanced, and deliberative" discussion should happen implies that the topic is either unfamiliar and requiring exploration, or is somehow otherwise of indeterminate status with respect to norms, morality or consequences.
At this point, if someone isn't at least dubious of Uber and the gig economy's value, given everything that's been publicly determined about them, I don't feel like I have a lot of time to waste on a "balanced" discussion.
- rossdavidh 7y agoAn "insightful, balanced, and deliberative" discussion is able to determine the truth about a matter more effectively than one imbalanced, that is not deliberative or insightful. So even if you have an opinion on a topic, it is a useful way to proceed to discuss it if you are wanting to gain some insight. If you're not wanting to learn anything from the discussion, why even have it? It's not as if a flame thread on the internet is going to actually convince anyone of anything, or really accomplish much of anything.
- fatbird 7y agoHow many times do we have to have a balanced discussion to determine the truth before we accept that, with reasonable certainty, we've determined the truth and can discuss subsequent issues on that basis? I'm not suggesting a flame thread is more productive. I'm suggesting that a civility/debating club fetish keeps us rehashing basics and is itself an impediment to deeper learning.