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>Hence my point we need much less regulation so that middle class people can afford to live in California Middle class people can afford to live in plenty of C

>Hence my point we need much less regulation so that middle class people can afford to live in California Middle class people can afford to live in plenty of California, just not in certain places like the bay area. The problems with housing are mostly caused by local NIMBYism not statewide regulation, which is an issue that doesn't have a specific political affiliation.

justinzollars 7y ago
Regulations do in fact have a political component. San Francisco has laws on the books mandating "affordable housing". These laws have have made housing construction much more expensive and have reduced the overall stock of housing. An unintended consequence. A new ballot measure, sponsored by progressives on the board of supervisors this year, will further limit construction and tie commercial development to these affordable housing mandates. The result will be less overall development and increased cost of living. Sponsored by progressives. What I see locally is progressives fighting development, and this hurts us all. Yes there is a NIMY component, but with a super majority in the state legislature - Democrats could easily overrule local laws. But they do not. Japan is an example of a place with housing decisions made at the state level.
- learc83 7y ago
  > San Francisco has laws on the books mandating "affordable housing". San Francisco is geographically limited. But San Francisco doesn't want to build up because of NIMBYism. That's the primary problem. It's not a left vs right thing. > Democrats could easily overrule local laws. The state government moving in and overturning local control is a big government progressive position. You are criticizing California for not being progressive enough.
justinzollars 7y ago
> Middle class people can afford to live in plenty of California, just not in certain places like the bay area. This hurts us all. The economy would grow if people from poorer areas could participate in more productive economies such as the Bay Area. It's sad that the most productive cities consider themselves "fully developed" - when we are far from it.
- learc83 7y ago
  >so that middle class people can afford to live in California You said California. Not San Francisco. The point is that it isn't the left leaning government of California that is making San Francisco expensive. It's a local problem.

justinzollars 7y ago

Regulations do in fact have a political component. San Francisco has laws on the books mandating "affordable housing". These laws have have made housing construction much more expensive and have reduced the overall stock of housing. An unintended consequence. A new ballot measure, sponsored by progressives on the board of supervisors this year, will further limit construction and tie commercial development to these affordable housing mandates. The result will be less overall development and increased cost of living. Sponsored by progressives. What I see locally is progressives fighting development, and this hurts us all. Yes there is a NIMY component, but with a super majority in the state legislature - Democrats could easily overrule local laws. But they do not. Japan is an example of a place with housing decisions made at the state level.

learc83 7y ago
> San Francisco has laws on the books mandating "affordable housing". San Francisco is geographically limited. But San Francisco doesn't want to build up because of NIMBYism. That's the primary problem. It's not a left vs right thing. > Democrats could easily overrule local laws. The state government moving in and overturning local control is a big government progressive position. You are criticizing California for not being progressive enough.

justinzollars 7y ago

> Middle class people can afford to live in plenty of California, just not in certain places like the bay area. This hurts us all. The economy would grow if people from poorer areas could participate in more productive economies such as the Bay Area. It's sad that the most productive cities consider themselves "fully developed" - when we are far from it.

learc83 7y ago
>so that middle class people can afford to live in California You said California. Not San Francisco. The point is that it isn't the left leaning government of California that is making San Francisco expensive. It's a local problem.