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Yes - I just meant that we're going to see a ton of comments here from people who want to let it be know that they think Uber, Postmates, etc are super evil and

Yes - I just meant that we're going to see a ton of comments here from people who want to let it be know that they think Uber, Postmates, etc are super evil and everything the government can do to shut them down is what they deserve. It is samethink. A lot of people posting here hold these positions because they read them in the last story about these companies and they want to join in on the rabble. And discussion or nuance gets lost in this blizzard of conformity of opinion. It gets boring after a while.

Waterluvian 7y ago
I think that's what bothers me about "woke". It applies a binary state to a considerably more complex concept. It's like being "in shape." It's not a yes or no state. You don't achieve "in shape" and move on to something else. It's an entire lifestyle that requires constant work. The concept of being woke is a convenient cop-out to declare in a single word that yes you agree with all those things all those other people are saying. Also get off my lawn. I'm cranky about fundamental principles I hold dear being distilled down to a slang word so that it fits Twitter culture conversations better.
- icebraining 7y ago
  > The concept of being woke is a convenient cop-out to declare in a single word that yes you agree with all those things all those other people are saying. As far as I can tell, woke is generally used as an adjective towards others (often pejoratively). Unironically claiming to be "woke" will generally elicit ridicule.
settsu 7y ago
How would you know it's "samethink" vs. a legitimate concern? A tendency towards "samethink" isn't uncommon amongst a subculture, which Hacker News targets by it's very definition. And, frankly, isn't that same audience also just as prone to anti-"samethink" circlejerks? Anti-samethink samethink, as it were. Besides, this sort of antiestablishmentarianism is hardly unique to "gig economy" businesses. I think it's fair to say that there is a growing anti-capitalist sentiment in the United States. A gig economy business simply seems an easy target for the ire of anyone who feels corporations are allowed to operate at the lowest possible threshold of ethical/legal standards, their continued existence enabled only by proletariat desperation.
dang 7y ago
Yes, the repetitive angry comments, which get snarkier and snarkier to distinguish themselves, certainly get boring. But posts like this one and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21923259 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21923259 are not any way to combat this–it just leads to second-order versions of the same thing. The only way to combat it is to post substantive, thoughtful first-order comments of your own. Or failing that, at least not to feed it by not posting.

Waterluvian 7y ago

I think that's what bothers me about "woke". It applies a binary state to a considerably more complex concept. It's like being "in shape." It's not a yes or no state. You don't achieve "in shape" and move on to something else. It's an entire lifestyle that requires constant work. The concept of being woke is a convenient cop-out to declare in a single word that yes you agree with all those things all those other people are saying. Also get off my lawn. I'm cranky about fundamental principles I hold dear being distilled down to a slang word so that it fits Twitter culture conversations better.

icebraining 7y ago
> The concept of being woke is a convenient cop-out to declare in a single word that yes you agree with all those things all those other people are saying. As far as I can tell, woke is generally used as an adjective towards others (often pejoratively). Unironically claiming to be "woke" will generally elicit ridicule.

settsu 7y ago

How would you know it's "samethink" vs. a legitimate concern? A tendency towards "samethink" isn't uncommon amongst a subculture, which Hacker News targets by it's very definition. And, frankly, isn't that same audience also just as prone to anti-"samethink" circlejerks? Anti-samethink samethink, as it were. Besides, this sort of antiestablishmentarianism is hardly unique to "gig economy" businesses. I think it's fair to say that there is a growing anti-capitalist sentiment in the United States. A gig economy business simply seems an easy target for the ire of anyone who feels corporations are allowed to operate at the lowest possible threshold of ethical/legal standards, their continued existence enabled only by proletariat desperation.

dang 7y ago

Yes, the repetitive angry comments, which get snarkier and snarkier to distinguish themselves, certainly get boring. But posts like this one and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21923259 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21923259 are not any way to combat this–it just leads to second-order versions of the same thing. The only way to combat it is to post substantive, thoughtful first-order comments of your own. Or failing that, at least not to feed it by not posting.