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The pads used for the turbines are quite large, they require an access road, power connections, and the turbines create substantial shade, reducing the producti

The pads used for the turbines are quite large, they require an access road, power connections, and the turbines create substantial shade, reducing the productivity of the ground below.

sverige 7y ago
Each turbine consumes a minimum of one acre of farmland, and should be offset by at least a half mile from any homes. The problem there is that there are often homes every mile in rural Iowa.
Robotbeat 7y ago
All of that is practically a rounding error compared to the actual area used for crops. Seriously, look at any satellite image of a wind farm in Iowa. Swamped by 2 or 3 years of annual crop yield growth: https://ourworldindata.org/exports/average-corn-yields-in-the-united-states-1866-2014_v1_850x600.svg https://ourworldindata.org/exports/average-corn-yields-in-th...
- yostrovs 7y ago
  Did you know farmers in Iowa cut down trees around their fields to minimize shade? The graph you provided is completely irrelevant to this discussion. Corn yield growth is resultant from political decisions to fund biofuels.
  - Robotbeat 7y ago
    Did you look at it? The growth starts around 1940. 2 tons per hectare. Today, over 10 tons per hectare. A 5x growth in yield over 80 years is due to ethanol political mandates starting around 20 years ago?
    - sverige 7y ago
      The yield increases have mainly come from two sources: increased use of chemicals for pest control and fertilizer, and genetic engineering. Both of those are problematic, with consequences only now slowly dawning on most people, and heavy resistance by the industry to any naysaying in public places. One day, we may recognize the problem and pass laws to limit or prohibit the use of chemicals. (I think the horse is out of the barn on genetic modification.) That will mean lower yields. Further, if California's droughts continue, the Midwest may need to start growing a greater variety of crops beyond corn and soybeans. There is no other place in the U.S. with soil as potentially productive and useful. Wasting it on wind farms when literally any other place will have less potential impact on agriculture is ridiculous.
      - Robotbeat 7y ago
        That's not the whole story (you should know!). Organic farming has also increased in yield dramatically.

The pads used for the turbines are quite large, they require an access road, power connections, and the turbines create substantial shade, reducing the productivity of the ground below.

sverige 7y ago

Each turbine consumes a minimum of one acre of farmland, and should be offset by at least a half mile from any homes. The problem there is that there are often homes every mile in rural Iowa.

Robotbeat 7y ago

All of that is practically a rounding error compared to the actual area used for crops. Seriously, look at any satellite image of a wind farm in Iowa. Swamped by 2 or 3 years of annual crop yield growth: https://ourworldindata.org/exports/average-corn-yields-in-the-united-states-1866-2014_v1_850x600.svg https://ourworldindata.org/exports/average-corn-yields-in-th...

yostrovs 7y ago
Did you know farmers in Iowa cut down trees around their fields to minimize shade? The graph you provided is completely irrelevant to this discussion. Corn yield growth is resultant from political decisions to fund biofuels.
- Robotbeat 7y ago
  Did you look at it? The growth starts around 1940. 2 tons per hectare. Today, over 10 tons per hectare. A 5x growth in yield over 80 years is due to ethanol political mandates starting around 20 years ago?
  - sverige 7y ago
    The yield increases have mainly come from two sources: increased use of chemicals for pest control and fertilizer, and genetic engineering. Both of those are problematic, with consequences only now slowly dawning on most people, and heavy resistance by the industry to any naysaying in public places. One day, we may recognize the problem and pass laws to limit or prohibit the use of chemicals. (I think the horse is out of the barn on genetic modification.) That will mean lower yields. Further, if California's droughts continue, the Midwest may need to start growing a greater variety of crops beyond corn and soybeans. There is no other place in the U.S. with soil as potentially productive and useful. Wasting it on wind farms when literally any other place will have less potential impact on agriculture is ridiculous.
    - Robotbeat 7y ago
      That's not the whole story (you should know!). Organic farming has also increased in yield dramatically.