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You're far too credulous. This guy seems like an absolute loon to me. I find his claims of "secret prisons" and widespread corruption extremely dubious. You

You're far too credulous. This guy seems like an absolute loon to me. I find his claims of "secret prisons" and widespread corruption extremely dubious. You have an anti-US bias ("I'm not exactly a fan of the USA") that you should try to account for. > Does that preclude the need of arguments in favor of them to excuse them of their treatment of Justina Pelletier? The two things aren't related. The parents challenged the hospital in court and won. I think there's clearly an issue here (the hospital seems to have gone too far), but we Americans -- barbaric though we may be -- have means of settling disagreements without DoSing hospitals.

Semaphor 7y ago
> You have an anti-US bias ("I'm not exactly a fan of the USA") that you should try to account for. Yes. I agree. This is why I asked for arguments in favor of the other side. So far I've read nothing but articles supporting Justina (and her parents) and Marty and their versions of the story. Then I asked for other viewpoints. And instead you tell me I shouldn't believe everything when I literally said "At face value" and that it seems over the top.
- jessaustin 7y ago
  The authoritarians in this nation don't have logic or the facts on their side. They make up for it with endless repetition. Every punishment for subjects, no matter how obviously extreme, must be supported. Every crime committed by the police, no matter the horrific circumstances, must be defended. Every authoritarian abuse of power must be good. If it's confusing to you, overseas, imagine living here and being subject to this noise constantly. [EDIT:] To be clear, I don't particularly believe or disbelieve any particular allegation in TFA. This is just an observation about comments ITT and how they echo comments in every thread about how we little unimportant people have overstepped our bounds.

Semaphor 7y ago

> You have an anti-US bias ("I'm not exactly a fan of the USA") that you should try to account for. Yes. I agree. This is why I asked for arguments in favor of the other side. So far I've read nothing but articles supporting Justina (and her parents) and Marty and their versions of the story. Then I asked for other viewpoints. And instead you tell me I shouldn't believe everything when I literally said "At face value" and that it seems over the top.

jessaustin 7y ago
The authoritarians in this nation don't have logic or the facts on their side. They make up for it with endless repetition. Every punishment for subjects, no matter how obviously extreme, must be supported. Every crime committed by the police, no matter the horrific circumstances, must be defended. Every authoritarian abuse of power must be good. If it's confusing to you, overseas, imagine living here and being subject to this noise constantly. [EDIT:] To be clear, I don't particularly believe or disbelieve any particular allegation in TFA. This is just an observation about comments ITT and how they echo comments in every thread about how we little unimportant people have overstepped our bounds.