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Yeah my experience in the Marines resonates with this a lot. So many training meetings about how drinking and driving was bad, followed by a meetup at the bar.
by aspaceman 7y ago
Yeah my experience in the Marines resonates with this a lot. So many training meetings about how drinking and driving was bad, followed by a meetup at the bar. Even during the presentations the officers in charge would joke about it. None of it was ever taken seriously. The best example of double-talk I have in real life. Way they would talk about "partying in Okinawa" was always creepy when you consider the Marines' history there.
Not blaming anyone specifically of course. I feel for anyone who feels like they need to drink to get through their days. Just think it's also a good example of CO's talking big but meaning nothing, and that attitude trickles all the way down the chain.
- C1sc0cat 7y agoAnd your problem is here ? If the meeting attendees where not driving after the meeting, I don't see the problem with social drinking and bonding.
- aspaceman 7y agoCause that "social drinking and bonding" was always binge drinking.
- C1sc0cat 7y agoWhat do you mean by Binge?
- jchw 7y ago“Binge drinking” is a concept of its own, see for example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binge_drinking https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binge_drinking
- jdc 7y ago"The National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism defines binge drinking as a pattern of drinking that brings a person’s blood alcohol concentration (BAC) to 0.08 grams percent or above. This typically happens when men consume 5 or more drinks or women consume 4 or more drinks in about 2 hours." https://www.cdc.gov/alcohol/fact-sheets/binge-drinking.htm https://www.cdc.gov/alcohol/fact-sheets/binge-drinking.htm
- C1sc0cat 7y agoOr in British Army terms a normal night out :-)
- aspaceman 7y agoHint: that’s the problem. People take drinking = binge drinking. Especially in the military.
- dsfyu404ed 7y agoThis seems to be one of those cases where the special interest definition of a term and what the general population considers a reasonable definition diverge. Killing anything less than a 6-pack is generally not considered binge drinking by the population at large. There's also an intent element. Binge drinking involves drinking to get drunk. Killing a 6-pack because you're sitting around with your buddies drinking and watching (edit: American) football is not binge drinking to anyone who isn't a card carrying member of MADD.
- icebraining 7y agoWell, a football match lasts over three hours, so chugging a six-pack over that time wouldn't fit the definition given above.
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- pjc50 7y agoWell, the original post said they were flying aircraft while still impaired afterwards ...
- C1sc0cat 7y agoWell it was more the mandated PowerPoint presentation they had to sit through. Anyone who's worked for a big corporation will know what I mean. "what the anti brbary course dint we do that 6 weeks ago "
- reallydontask 7y agoIsn't the difference that most people are unlikely to be in any position where they can be bribed whereas in the military a lot more people use heavy equipment (for want of a better word)?
- C1sc0cat 7y agoIts the same sort of repeat the same tick the box training - and woe betide you if you don't do it properly. https://www.duffelblog.com/2017/12/soldiers-accidentally-summon-cthulhu-after-commander-forgets-to-give-safety-brief/ https://www.duffelblog.com/2017/12/soldiers-accidentally-sum...
- thrower123 7y agoAll the Airforce personnel that I've drunk with tell me that a couple minutes on pure oxygen do wonders to clear up a hangover.
- cafard 7y agoPure oxygen may clear up a hangover, but as far as I know the body metabolizes alcohol at a fixed rate unaffected by oxygen, exercise, etc.
- JoeAltmaier 7y ago