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It will be a great day for individuals everywhere when we automate away 75% of MD/DO jobs. It won't be a great day for the AAMC, and I also look forward to seei

It will be a great day for individuals everywhere when we automate away 75% of MD/DO jobs. It won't be a great day for the AAMC, and I also look forward to seeing how they respond.

MiroF 7y ago
The same way they already respond to the fact that nurses/NP are capable of doing a large number of jobs reserved for MDs: lobby and regulate.
- oarabbus_ 7y ago
  I also can't wait for the day that the regulations you refer to which prevent NPs from doing jobs they are fully qualified for (and thereby improving the medical care for the nation) are struck down. I'm not sure that day will ever come.
natalyarostova 7y ago
The cotton gin increased demand for labor to use the tool. You have to think very carefully and subtly to even have a chance at predicting second order effects from more complex forms of automation.
- jcims 7y ago
  Same is true of regulation.
- oarabbus_ 7y ago
  I worked for a surgical robotics company as well as other medical device companies, and procedure lengths and surgical wait times both decreased in facilities with the device. Based on my experience the danger is in areas like "will we over-prescribe imaging tests even more than now?" but as to whether we'd need less doctors to treat the same number of patients, the answer is yes.
  - natalyarostova 7y ago
    If imaging tests become higher quality and cheaper would the concept of over-prescription of them still make sense? (Asking sincerely, I don’t work in medicine)
    - oarabbus_ 7y ago
      It is still dangerous, as x-rays are carcinogenic, and also the chance of false positives can adversely affect patient health.
- catalogia 7y ago
  From what I understand the increase in demand for labor was not to use the tool itself (which I believe would generally be water powered, not hand cranked) but rather the tool induced a greater demand for raw cotton and provided expansion opportunities to industries that consumed cotton. So more people were picking cotton and working in textile factories.
Gatsky 7y ago
I'm interested to know why you have this negative view of medicine. I'm also interested in why you think the alternate future where medicine is automated (assuming that is possible and/or desirable to most people) is likely to be better for society as a whole.

It will be a great day for individuals everywhere when we automate away 75% of MD/DO jobs. It won't be a great day for the AAMC, and I also look forward to seeing how they respond.

MiroF 7y ago

The same way they already respond to the fact that nurses/NP are capable of doing a large number of jobs reserved for MDs: lobby and regulate.

oarabbus_ 7y ago
I also can't wait for the day that the regulations you refer to which prevent NPs from doing jobs they are fully qualified for (and thereby improving the medical care for the nation) are struck down. I'm not sure that day will ever come.

natalyarostova 7y ago

The cotton gin increased demand for labor to use the tool. You have to think very carefully and subtly to even have a chance at predicting second order effects from more complex forms of automation.

jcims 7y ago
Same is true of regulation.
oarabbus_ 7y ago
I worked for a surgical robotics company as well as other medical device companies, and procedure lengths and surgical wait times both decreased in facilities with the device. Based on my experience the danger is in areas like "will we over-prescribe imaging tests even more than now?" but as to whether we'd need less doctors to treat the same number of patients, the answer is yes.
- natalyarostova 7y ago
  If imaging tests become higher quality and cheaper would the concept of over-prescription of them still make sense? (Asking sincerely, I don’t work in medicine)
  - oarabbus_ 7y ago
    It is still dangerous, as x-rays are carcinogenic, and also the chance of false positives can adversely affect patient health.
catalogia 7y ago
From what I understand the increase in demand for labor was not to use the tool itself (which I believe would generally be water powered, not hand cranked) but rather the tool induced a greater demand for raw cotton and provided expansion opportunities to industries that consumed cotton. So more people were picking cotton and working in textile factories.

Gatsky 7y ago

I'm interested to know why you have this negative view of medicine. I'm also interested in why you think the alternate future where medicine is automated (assuming that is possible and/or desirable to most people) is likely to be better for society as a whole.