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>I would also love a mode which lowers the cognitive load of navigation while biking. Perhaps I could save a minute by taking a short-cut involving 10 different

>I would also love a mode which lowers the cognitive load of navigation while biking. Perhaps I could save a minute by taking a short-cut involving 10 different turns, but when in unfamiliar territory (and hence using navigation software in the first place), each turn poses some difficulty. So many times I've missed to take a turn because the audio cues have been so ever slightly off. I would love having this mode for cars as well. Sometimes to shave off a couple of minutes, maps will route along the hypotenuse of a right triangle via a lot of turns on smaller roads. I would have preferred just going along the main road and making a single turn, even if that took a few minutes longer. This is especially important at night where the road signage may have reduced visibility.

notatoad 7y ago
Yeah, i think this is even more important for driving. on a bike, if i take a wrong turn it's no big deal, i'll turn around. in a car, i could be driving a while before i have an opportunity. I would pay real money for a navigation app that would tell me which route was the easiest drive.
cortesoft 7y ago
My problem is too many left turns at stop signs... here in Los Angeles, those are basically impossible, but Waze loves to try to make you take them.
- gffrd 7y ago
  By jove, I think it's trying to kill us.* I was driving the other day and pondered whether measuring pulse/blood pressure/other factors that indicate stress while traveling a recommended route (or even passively, correlating to time+day) could positively inform route quality. (*It honestly seems to prefer them, even in Seattle where everything is a reflective sheet of glass and pedestrians are shrouded in urban camouflage 300 days of the year.)
- adrianmonk 7y ago
  I feel that pain. I live on a side street right off a very busy road. EVERY time, it suggests that I make a death-defying left turn, even though I could go one street over and turn with a stoplight. Sometimes I do choose to make that left turn myself, though. In light traffic (middle of the night, etc.), it's easy and it's faster. In heavy traffic, it can be impossible. If only they had access to traffic data, and if only they had people skilled in algorithms and AI, they could use those two things to figure out when to suggest (unprotected) left turns and when not to. Oh wait... they do have that data and that expertise.

notatoad 7y ago

Yeah, i think this is even more important for driving. on a bike, if i take a wrong turn it's no big deal, i'll turn around. in a car, i could be driving a while before i have an opportunity. I would pay real money for a navigation app that would tell me which route was the easiest drive.

cortesoft 7y ago

My problem is too many left turns at stop signs... here in Los Angeles, those are basically impossible, but Waze loves to try to make you take them.

gffrd 7y ago
By jove, I think it's trying to kill us.* I was driving the other day and pondered whether measuring pulse/blood pressure/other factors that indicate stress while traveling a recommended route (or even passively, correlating to time+day) could positively inform route quality. (*It honestly seems to prefer them, even in Seattle where everything is a reflective sheet of glass and pedestrians are shrouded in urban camouflage 300 days of the year.)
adrianmonk 7y ago
I feel that pain. I live on a side street right off a very busy road. EVERY time, it suggests that I make a death-defying left turn, even though I could go one street over and turn with a stoplight. Sometimes I do choose to make that left turn myself, though. In light traffic (middle of the night, etc.), it's easy and it's faster. In heavy traffic, it can be impossible. If only they had access to traffic data, and if only they had people skilled in algorithms and AI, they could use those two things to figure out when to suggest (unprotected) left turns and when not to. Oh wait... they do have that data and that expertise.