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The other thing to bear in mind with stuff like this, the FBI investigates stuff all the time and it turns out there was nothing there. One of the more interest

The other thing to bear in mind with stuff like this, the FBI investigates stuff all the time and it turns out there was nothing there. One of the more interesting examples is their investigation into the song Louie Louie: https://groovyhistory.com/louie-louie-kingsmen-fbi-investigation https://groovyhistory.com/louie-louie-kingsmen-fbi-investiga... This was the height of the Satanic Panic. Without the CIA papers it's hard to tell if this was another example of the FBI investigating what was ultimately nothing, some facts planted on purpose by the CIA, or what.

3fe9a03ccd14ca5 7y ago
> Without the CIA papers it's hard to tell if this was another example of the FBI investigating what was ultimately nothing I can't personally come to the same conclusion. This is a documented, declassified event of a pretty dark and unsettling case that was closed directly because it was a CIA operation. That's in the signed documents by the FBI, it's not a theory. What types of CIA operation scenarios can happen here that make this less unsettling? A benevolent daycare operation for employees? What does the CIA do?
- fenwick67 7y ago
  My impression is that they found out the CIA was already involved in some way and the FBI just closed the book to get out of their way. The CIA's involvement could have been anything. Could have been an international cult they were looking into, an experiment to try and get kids to summon The Horned God, or a brainwashing experiment, or they could have been involved because some diplomat's kid was there and they wanted to influence them. My point is that without the CIA docs there's no way to tell what was really going on or how nefarious this really was.
  - AndrewBissell 7y ago
    When I see the CIA discussed in these terms, where people make all kinds of lawless and insane behavior out to be a routine matter of course, my first thought is "we should probably abolish the CIA, just to be safe."
blaser-waffle 7y ago
> some facts planted on purpose by the CIA, or what A lot of them were Soviet disinformation campaigns; blaming the CIA was the SOP. Doesn't help that the CIA does do all sorts of weird shit, though...

3fe9a03ccd14ca5 7y ago

> Without the CIA papers it's hard to tell if this was another example of the FBI investigating what was ultimately nothing I can't personally come to the same conclusion. This is a documented, declassified event of a pretty dark and unsettling case that was closed directly because it was a CIA operation. That's in the signed documents by the FBI, it's not a theory. What types of CIA operation scenarios can happen here that make this less unsettling? A benevolent daycare operation for employees? What does the CIA do?

fenwick67 7y ago
My impression is that they found out the CIA was already involved in some way and the FBI just closed the book to get out of their way. The CIA's involvement could have been anything. Could have been an international cult they were looking into, an experiment to try and get kids to summon The Horned God, or a brainwashing experiment, or they could have been involved because some diplomat's kid was there and they wanted to influence them. My point is that without the CIA docs there's no way to tell what was really going on or how nefarious this really was.
- AndrewBissell 7y ago
  When I see the CIA discussed in these terms, where people make all kinds of lawless and insane behavior out to be a routine matter of course, my first thought is "we should probably abolish the CIA, just to be safe."

blaser-waffle 7y ago

> some facts planted on purpose by the CIA, or what A lot of them were Soviet disinformation campaigns; blaming the CIA was the SOP. Doesn't help that the CIA does do all sorts of weird shit, though...