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Wow, does that even work - I just assumed that HN was too small a community for misbehaviour to be lost in the noise. Would love to hear moderators opinions on

Wow, does that even work - I just assumed that HN was too small a community for misbehaviour to be lost in the noise. Would love to hear moderators opinions on this?

dobleboble 7y ago
Recently HN seems to have become more heavily targeted. I think bad actors have realized the value of the community here. I am increasingly wary of opening links to unfamiliar domains except in a sandbox environment.
- jacquesm 7y ago
  This has been going on for quite some time. But the mod(s) do a more than credible job at keeping up with the trash and identifying such behavior. The bigger problem - in my opinion - is people submitting (unwittingly) content cloned from elsewhere. There is quite a bit of blogspam that makes it to the front page. Usually even that is taken care of sooner rather than later but for every time it works there is proof that it can work which will drive more people to try to get away with it. We can all help with this issue: ensure that we submit content from original sources and in case content from a cloned source is submitted flag the article and point to the original.
  - nkurz 7y ago
    > in case content from a cloned source is submitted flag the article and point to the original It sure would be nice if there was a way to add a comment to explain why one has flagged an article, so the moderators don't have to guess why it was flagged! As it is, I occasionally add an explanation in a comment or direct email, but it always feels awkward.
- buboard 7y ago
  i presume if someone would use this, they d use an "OK" domain like medium
xorcist 7y ago
HN is not small by any measure. It is often featured on the first Google page. The HN hug of death is just as real as the Slashdot effect. It is quite obvious when companies who think these sites are relevant for their social media is featured. Suddenly a whole lot of upvotes comes along. Make of that what you will. Personally I think it is naive to believe that any open community is free from bought votes.
- lifeisstillgood 7y ago
  Does anyone have any actual measures of this? I guess there are some API services re I could investigate but ... I'm lazy and it's xmas. It still just runs on one large server IIRR
  - squeaky-clean 7y ago
    Here's a post from 2013, "What happens when you're #1 on Hacker News for a day" tl;dr numbers: 15,000+ unique visitors, 25,000+ page views https://levels.io/hacker-news-number-one/ https://levels.io/hacker-news-number-one/ And here's a thread from 2016 where users chime in with their results. tl;dr numbers: A #2 or #3 ranking was about 50k-75k pageviews. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12008384 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12008384
buboard 7y ago
it's not small. even if a show HN doesnt even reach the frontpage it s decent traffic, and , depending on the product, can be pretty relevant too. one could do the math to figure out how they came up with this $2 / upvote price - i presume it's the equivalent of paying google for the same amount of traffic.
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Wow, does that even work - I just assumed that HN was too small a community for misbehaviour to be lost in the noise. Would love to hear moderators opinions on this?

dobleboble 7y ago

Recently HN seems to have become more heavily targeted. I think bad actors have realized the value of the community here. I am increasingly wary of opening links to unfamiliar domains except in a sandbox environment.

jacquesm 7y ago
This has been going on for quite some time. But the mod(s) do a more than credible job at keeping up with the trash and identifying such behavior. The bigger problem - in my opinion - is people submitting (unwittingly) content cloned from elsewhere. There is quite a bit of blogspam that makes it to the front page. Usually even that is taken care of sooner rather than later but for every time it works there is proof that it can work which will drive more people to try to get away with it. We can all help with this issue: ensure that we submit content from original sources and in case content from a cloned source is submitted flag the article and point to the original.
- nkurz 7y ago
  > in case content from a cloned source is submitted flag the article and point to the original It sure would be nice if there was a way to add a comment to explain why one has flagged an article, so the moderators don't have to guess why it was flagged! As it is, I occasionally add an explanation in a comment or direct email, but it always feels awkward.
buboard 7y ago
i presume if someone would use this, they d use an "OK" domain like medium

xorcist 7y ago

HN is not small by any measure. It is often featured on the first Google page. The HN hug of death is just as real as the Slashdot effect. It is quite obvious when companies who think these sites are relevant for their social media is featured. Suddenly a whole lot of upvotes comes along. Make of that what you will. Personally I think it is naive to believe that any open community is free from bought votes.

lifeisstillgood 7y ago
Does anyone have any actual measures of this? I guess there are some API services re I could investigate but ... I'm lazy and it's xmas. It still just runs on one large server IIRR
- squeaky-clean 7y ago
  Here's a post from 2013, "What happens when you're #1 on Hacker News for a day" tl;dr numbers: 15,000+ unique visitors, 25,000+ page views https://levels.io/hacker-news-number-one/ https://levels.io/hacker-news-number-one/ And here's a thread from 2016 where users chime in with their results. tl;dr numbers: A #2 or #3 ranking was about 50k-75k pageviews. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12008384 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12008384

buboard 7y ago

it's not small. even if a show HN doesnt even reach the frontpage it s decent traffic, and , depending on the product, can be pretty relevant too. one could do the math to figure out how they came up with this $2 / upvote price - i presume it's the equivalent of paying google for the same amount of traffic.

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