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Meta-lesson: Not only are some people complete and total garbage, utter tools that have nothing to contribute to society aside from constant regurgitation of a

Meta-lesson: Not only are some people complete and total garbage, utter tools that have nothing to contribute to society aside from constant regurgitation of a corporatized and hateful memecomplex, but you have responded to one; grandparent is human trash.

michaelmrose 7y ago
I have sympathy for people who made bad choices. I believe in helping them get better and make better ones in the future. I don't think the time is when their presence represents a threat to one's family. I also regard violation of a family home as such a crime as to render the person difficult to redeem. The kind of people that make such choices aren't just high right now they are also bad unethical people. The poster above made a conjecture that it was incorrect to assume one was in mortal danger from a robber and that shooting such a person was an overreaction. I considered that. Actual stats say that 1/4 robbers that break in while individuals are home victimize the people therein and 39% had a weapon. https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/ascii/vdhb.txt https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/ascii/vdhb.txt This says to me that a house breaker is a substantial risk refuting the prior posters expressed idea. You will note that both the original poster and I had a point regardless of whether you agree with either. I'm not even sure what idea >constant regurgitation of a corporatized and hateful memecomplex Is supposed to express. What is the memecomplex and wherein is it puked up repeatedly? Would you like to try to express yourself more clearly and respectfully?
- lidHanteyk 7y ago
  In the original context, at the top of the thread, we are talking about whether it is reasonable to respond to police executing a no-knock warrant with deadly force. I contend that it is not, and further, indeed I am judging you harshly for your apologetics. You have run with a manufactured red herring wherein the people entering the house are some sort of subhumans who may be shot on sight. If you are the sort of person who is having a no-knock warrant executed upon them, and moreover if the police executing the warrant are armed and dangerous, you may presume that you have done something to convince them that you are worth the effort of going above and beyond what is otherwise reasonable, as most jurisdictions with no-knock warrants require a reason for the surprising entry. On the gripping hand, feel free to move to someplace like Oregon where no-knock warrants are illegal and to keep a baseball bat by the door; I do both. I hope that this is clear enough. It's not going to get more respectful; I cannot empathize with your perspective because of my own life experiences, and further your inability to use a search engine or come up with your own original thoughts is not endearing to me. Your memes taste of Scared 90s American Dad.
  - michaelmrose 7y ago
    > In the original context, at the top of the thread, we are talking about whether it is reasonable to respond to police executing a no-knock warrant with deadly force I don't think anyone suggested that it was reasonable to respond to the police executing a no knock warrant with bullets. In fact a massive downside of no knock warrants is that a police search may be mistaken for a home invasion. In a home invasion one can in most places render your home safe by shooting an invader but in most places shooting the cops will result in a very long prison sentence. We segwayed into a discussion of what the right thing to do in the event of an actual intruder. Perhaps you didn't notice? > you may presume that you have done something to convince them that you are worth the effort of going above and beyond what is otherwise reasonable, as most jurisdictions with no-knock warrants require a reason for the surprising entry. You presume wrongly about the cause of no knock warrants. Most are for drugs. Most find no drugs. 10% in new york city actually involved kicking down the wrong door. https://www.newsmax.com/FastFeatures/no-knock-raids-SWAT-facts-figures/2015/06/19/id/651434/ https://www.newsmax.com/FastFeatures/no-knock-raids-SWAT-fac... > It's not going to get more respectful Yes. Yes it is.

michaelmrose 7y ago

I have sympathy for people who made bad choices. I believe in helping them get better and make better ones in the future. I don't think the time is when their presence represents a threat to one's family. I also regard violation of a family home as such a crime as to render the person difficult to redeem. The kind of people that make such choices aren't just high right now they are also bad unethical people. The poster above made a conjecture that it was incorrect to assume one was in mortal danger from a robber and that shooting such a person was an overreaction. I considered that. Actual stats say that 1/4 robbers that break in while individuals are home victimize the people therein and 39% had a weapon. https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/ascii/vdhb.txt https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/ascii/vdhb.txt This says to me that a house breaker is a substantial risk refuting the prior posters expressed idea. You will note that both the original poster and I had a point regardless of whether you agree with either. I'm not even sure what idea >constant regurgitation of a corporatized and hateful memecomplex Is supposed to express. What is the memecomplex and wherein is it puked up repeatedly? Would you like to try to express yourself more clearly and respectfully?

lidHanteyk 7y ago
In the original context, at the top of the thread, we are talking about whether it is reasonable to respond to police executing a no-knock warrant with deadly force. I contend that it is not, and further, indeed I am judging you harshly for your apologetics. You have run with a manufactured red herring wherein the people entering the house are some sort of subhumans who may be shot on sight. If you are the sort of person who is having a no-knock warrant executed upon them, and moreover if the police executing the warrant are armed and dangerous, you may presume that you have done something to convince them that you are worth the effort of going above and beyond what is otherwise reasonable, as most jurisdictions with no-knock warrants require a reason for the surprising entry. On the gripping hand, feel free to move to someplace like Oregon where no-knock warrants are illegal and to keep a baseball bat by the door; I do both. I hope that this is clear enough. It's not going to get more respectful; I cannot empathize with your perspective because of my own life experiences, and further your inability to use a search engine or come up with your own original thoughts is not endearing to me. Your memes taste of Scared 90s American Dad.
- michaelmrose 7y ago
  > In the original context, at the top of the thread, we are talking about whether it is reasonable to respond to police executing a no-knock warrant with deadly force I don't think anyone suggested that it was reasonable to respond to the police executing a no knock warrant with bullets. In fact a massive downside of no knock warrants is that a police search may be mistaken for a home invasion. In a home invasion one can in most places render your home safe by shooting an invader but in most places shooting the cops will result in a very long prison sentence. We segwayed into a discussion of what the right thing to do in the event of an actual intruder. Perhaps you didn't notice? > you may presume that you have done something to convince them that you are worth the effort of going above and beyond what is otherwise reasonable, as most jurisdictions with no-knock warrants require a reason for the surprising entry. You presume wrongly about the cause of no knock warrants. Most are for drugs. Most find no drugs. 10% in new york city actually involved kicking down the wrong door. https://www.newsmax.com/FastFeatures/no-knock-raids-SWAT-facts-figures/2015/06/19/id/651434/ https://www.newsmax.com/FastFeatures/no-knock-raids-SWAT-fac... > It's not going to get more respectful Yes. Yes it is.