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I switched to FF for my daily driver almost a year ago on my Windows machine and haven't looked back. Previously FF had too many performance issues but since ea

by keyP 7y ago

I switched to FF for my daily driver almost a year ago on my Windows machine and haven't looked back. Previously FF had too many performance issues but since each tab is run in a separate process, it's been just as good as Chrome (not so much on OSX however, I still use Chrome there). The other advantage of FF for me, besides Pocket, is that I can share and send pages with FF on Android which has support for ad-blockers. Last time I checked, Chrome didn't support extensions on Android.

inetknght 7y ago
I wish Pocket didn't come enabled by default. It's intrusive spyware. Edit: It's information leaks for advertisements. I switched from Chrome to Firefox to get away from advertisement empires. Having to manually disable Pocket to do that leaves a sour note.
- angott 7y ago
  Out of curiosity, can you elaborate on that?
- zachwood 7y ago
  > It's intrusive spyware. Please explain.
- czechdeveloper 7y ago
  Pocket is owned by Mozilla, so if Pocket is spyware, Mozilla is making spyware. Does not sound right.
  - hydgu 7y ago
    Yeah, they would never do that. https://blog.mozilla.org/press-uk/2017/10/06/testing-cliqz-in-firefox/ https://blog.mozilla.org/press-uk/2017/10/06/testing-cliqz-i... "Users who receive a version of Firefox with Cliqz will have their browsing activity sent to Cliqz servers, including the URLs of pages they visit" Ooops.
    - cerberusss 7y ago
      I think you're misleading in quoting a two-year old blog, then closing off with "ooops", implying that Mozilla was caught in a privacy-related oops. When in fact, Mozilla was super duper clear in the blog about the privacy implications of this experiment. And in the past two years, they have been focusing more and more on the privacy angle. At the moment, both Safari and Mozilla look to me to be leading in privacy.
      - hydgv 7y ago
        Being super duper clear about having sent the full URL history of users to a third party doesn't excuse you from the fact that you, well, sent the full URL history of users to a third party. And unless the entire leadership of the Mozilla Corporation has been replaced since then (a wet dream of mine) that blog entry is relevant, since they've done it and they could do it again.
        cerberusss 7y ago
        Are you saying that nothing could ever excuse that fact? Cliqz is building a European, independent privacy-oriented search engine. This seems a worthy reason to me, especially with the complete and total transparency here. And in any case, the experiment has ended. I still maintain your comments are misleading, by leaving out the context.
        hydgv 7y ago
        Setting aside whether Cliqz could be trusted or not, just think of it: this is a decision that went through lots of managers in the Mozilla Corporation, and nobody ever stopped to think for a moment "sending the entire URL history of our users to a third party? well this is wrong". This is the kind of decision that should've led to lots of resignations inside the company, but nothing happened. To me this means there's something deeply rotten inside Mozilla. What kind of assurance do I have that they won't pull this off again in the future? And let's remember that they are strapped for cash, so it's not like they don't have an incentive to sell private user data again.
- jdashg 7y ago
  Pocket very carefully avoids leaking information. It's cleverly done.
prike 7y ago
FF got so much better on osx lately. Now it consumes as much battery as chrome for me.
- keyP 7y ago
  Ah interesting, I may have to revisit in that case as it has been a while since I tried it on OSX.
The_rationalist 7y ago
Kiwi browser is a chromium with extensions for Android.
- keyP 7y ago
  Unless Kiwi browser supports Google Chrome user profiles, the main advantange of FF over Chrome on Android, for me, is the ability to share webpages seamlessly.

by keyP 7y ago

inetknght 7y ago

I wish Pocket didn't come enabled by default. It's intrusive spyware. Edit: It's information leaks for advertisements. I switched from Chrome to Firefox to get away from advertisement empires. Having to manually disable Pocket to do that leaves a sour note.

angott 7y ago
Out of curiosity, can you elaborate on that?
zachwood 7y ago
> It's intrusive spyware. Please explain.
czechdeveloper 7y ago
Pocket is owned by Mozilla, so if Pocket is spyware, Mozilla is making spyware. Does not sound right.
- hydgu 7y ago
  Yeah, they would never do that. https://blog.mozilla.org/press-uk/2017/10/06/testing-cliqz-in-firefox/ https://blog.mozilla.org/press-uk/2017/10/06/testing-cliqz-i... "Users who receive a version of Firefox with Cliqz will have their browsing activity sent to Cliqz servers, including the URLs of pages they visit" Ooops.
  - cerberusss 7y ago
    I think you're misleading in quoting a two-year old blog, then closing off with "ooops", implying that Mozilla was caught in a privacy-related oops. When in fact, Mozilla was super duper clear in the blog about the privacy implications of this experiment. And in the past two years, they have been focusing more and more on the privacy angle. At the moment, both Safari and Mozilla look to me to be leading in privacy.
    - hydgv 7y ago
      Being super duper clear about having sent the full URL history of users to a third party doesn't excuse you from the fact that you, well, sent the full URL history of users to a third party. And unless the entire leadership of the Mozilla Corporation has been replaced since then (a wet dream of mine) that blog entry is relevant, since they've done it and they could do it again.
      - cerberusss 7y ago
        Are you saying that nothing could ever excuse that fact? Cliqz is building a European, independent privacy-oriented search engine. This seems a worthy reason to me, especially with the complete and total transparency here. And in any case, the experiment has ended. I still maintain your comments are misleading, by leaving out the context.
        hydgv 7y ago
        Setting aside whether Cliqz could be trusted or not, just think of it: this is a decision that went through lots of managers in the Mozilla Corporation, and nobody ever stopped to think for a moment "sending the entire URL history of our users to a third party? well this is wrong". This is the kind of decision that should've led to lots of resignations inside the company, but nothing happened. To me this means there's something deeply rotten inside Mozilla. What kind of assurance do I have that they won't pull this off again in the future? And let's remember that they are strapped for cash, so it's not like they don't have an incentive to sell private user data again.
jdashg 7y ago
Pocket very carefully avoids leaking information. It's cleverly done.

prike 7y ago

FF got so much better on osx lately. Now it consumes as much battery as chrome for me.

keyP 7y ago
Ah interesting, I may have to revisit in that case as it has been a while since I tried it on OSX.

The_rationalist 7y ago

Kiwi browser is a chromium with extensions for Android.

keyP 7y ago
Unless Kiwi browser supports Google Chrome user profiles, the main advantange of FF over Chrome on Android, for me, is the ability to share webpages seamlessly.