> Most software developers are paid shit (outside the USA and Silicon Valley) and are barely equivalent to other engineers or university educated folks. Agree

> Most software developers are paid shit (outside the USA and Silicon Valley) and are barely equivalent to other engineers or university educated folks. Agree - and to add to this, a big chunk of "software" jobs does not seem to actually involve writing software nowadays but rather consist of an endless set of chores like fixing shell scripts, running ETL jobs, handling pager duty at 3am etc I have seen a number of fresh college graduates get stuck in these dead-end jobs and have helped them get out of these ruts by mentoring them. As you say, the vast majority of the software jobs are really bad.